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Picks/Indy/SundayAfternoon
EDITING NOTE
This is being posted on July 22nd, however, the race is not until July 29th. Do not panic and think you need to be posting this afternoon! The Nationwide series in Chicagoland today. Poll Also, I'm trying out a new rundown format this week. Tell me what you think! Points, Intro, and Congratulatory Remarks It is time to begin our long stretch of 17 consecutive races to the end of the season! Two weeks ago, Brent won Loudon and by default, earned the Segment 3 points lead. At the same time, he knocked a big dent in the lead held by our points leader, Carl Martin. So lets take a look at how our overall points are looking as we head into Indianapolis.... 1) carlm54stl 2033 Leader 2) JuniorCar 1989 -44 3) Leprechaun93 1946 -87 4) Cowboy6622 1944 -89 5) SupplySgt 1931 -102 6) bblackstone 1905 -128 7) zjerry 1886 -147 8) 02 Earnhardt 1877 -156 9) 03JGMonte 1856 -177 10) lougreen03 1850 -186 11) montecarlo3831 1840 -196 12) butch049 1815 -218 13) 77GP 1747 -286 14) silverfish33 1711 -322 15) STUMPMI 1655 -378 16) adgm2005 1435 17) RocknSS04 1142 18) SuperSportSteve 928 19) 01 Monte SS 908 20) Ricks 2006 SS 520 21) 06 Mistre SS 428 22) Teacher 306 23) yutzybrian 211 24) nichols2k 175 25) MnteCarloSS47 124 26) monte06ltz 92 27) Racebound2 83 28) Possum 77 29) 04chevyboy 76 30) Emily666 61 31) SS Means Super Sexy 60 32) mousehousemoparman 54 Segment 3 1) JuniorCar 126 Leader 2) MnteCrloSS47 124 -2 3) SupplySgt 122 -4 4) zjerry 117 -9 5) Ricks 2006 SS 117 -9 6) 02 Earnhardt 115 -11 7) Leprechaun93 115 -11 8) butch049 114 -12 9) nichols2k 113 -13 10) STUMPMI 110 -16 11) Cowboy6622 110 -16 12) adgm2005 109 -17 13) 03JGMonte 109 -17 14) 77GP 107 -19 15) montecarlo3831 107 -19 16) carlm54stl 101 -25 17) lougreen03 95 -31 18) bblackstone 95 -31 19) silverfish33 91 -35 Defending Winner zjerry The "Indianapolis of the West" Years ago, a track of similar shape and configuration existed in Ontario, California. The stock cars used to end their season there. Richard Petty infamously won his last title in 1979 at the Ontario Motor Speedway in Southern Cali over Darrell Waltrip. It was the same shape, only smaller at 2.0 miles, whereas Indy is 2.5. It held great racing, but just like Riverside road course, real estate, progress and emininet domain did the track in.... http://www.dfphotoservices.com/galle...ock/stock2.jpg Much like Indy, this race even held three wide starts for a time period.... http://www.woodbrothersracing.com/im...edway_1971.jpg But it wasn't Indy, it never held the same luster, and for years, NASCAR never ran a rectangle shaped track after Ontario was dropped in 1980. Indianapolis History We all know how historic this place is with the now Indy Car series. NASCAR did tire tests and "informal" tests here for years, and the track actually made improvements ot the infield and added pit exit roads for the stock cars to use. This was a much anticipated event and at one point in time, ti actually held a bigger purse than the Daytona 500. Tony Stewart said this race was a bigger one to him than Daytona! It is the same length as Daytona, 2.5 miles, but has flat corners and a notably rectangular shape. http://amberie.files.wordpress.com/2...eedway-sad.gif And this place is as old as cars themselves... http://clickamericana.com/wp-content...edway-1922.jpg However, some people as of lat ehave been complaining about boring racing at Indy, especially with this new COT. I know I hate this place in the video games. I can dominate Pocono, I can handle Loudon and Martnisville... but I just can't hold my own at Indy. Haven't been able to do it in any video game for 10-15 years now. THIS WEEKEND AT INDY The Favorites Far and above, the clear favorites this week have to be the cars with the bow ties on the front. Chevrolet is going for 10 consecutive wins at the Brickyard. Their combination of horsepower and flat track cornering serves them well here. And certainly, the most favorite Chevrolets to win have to be the Hendrick cars. Jeff Gordon is one of the best here, statistically. And he needs a good run to even begin thinking about being in the chase this year. Kasey Kahne ran well here early in his career for Evernham, but the last couple of years in Fords and Toyotas haven't been kind to him. I have to think that Kasey Kahne will be running very well when we return to here for the Two Hendrick drivers are notably absent here. I will get to them later.... and both may surprise you as to why.... Tony Stewart is another Hendrick related car and I've got to say, he is good at Indy, and he is a hot hand right now. However, his bad run last week at Loudon on a flat track might not be the best sign for him. HE even finished way better than he ran last week. Pony wasn't as strong as I thought he should be at Pocono, but he was really good at Michigan.... Kevin Harvick is also a good driver at Indy and notably blew the quarterfender off his car doing a burnout the year he won here. He is pretty decent here, and what has held the team back all year is the 1.5 program. Well this isn't a 1.5 mile race.... it's a 2.5 mile flat track! And although I crack this track up to be a good one for the Chevrolets, there is one Ford team to watch out for. Greg Biffle. Greg Biffle has four consecutive Top 10 runs at Indy, and as you remmeber, some of those last 4 years weren't good at all to the 16 team! This year, Biffle is good.. .but in the last few weeks, Biffle has seemed to just "cool down" a little bit. The "Ones to Watch" I notbaly left out Jimmie Johnson and Dale Earnhardt, Jr in the "Favorites" category. Here is why... Jimmie Johnson has won at Indianapolis three times. However, his other finishes include wrecks, engine issues, and finishes in the high teens/twenties in the finishing order. Basically, he is either going to win this race or crash trying. Including those three wins, Jimmie has FOUR finish inside the top 10. Which one will it be? You decide... Dale Earnhardt Jr is a hot hand this year, rising up in the points and just keeps clicking off those top 10s. He is going to need that momentum at Indianapolis. He has TWO top 10 finishes at Indy, coming in 2001 and 2006. Matt Kenseth etiher runs top 5 or runs like crap here, yet never seems to be a contender to win here either. He is the points leader and running well this year, but last week we saw the Ford teams just don't seem to have a good flat track program going right now. The Underdogs Everyone loves a good underdog to cheer for, right? Carl Edwards runs well at Indianapolis every other year. As in a finish in the teens one year, top 5-top 10 the next. This week, he has a new crew chief. He has only won one race without Bob Osbourne on the box. This week, we'll see how he does with this new guy. And last year his finish was 14th, so this should be "The other year" where he runs well at Indy! Brad Keselowski has been getting hotter and hotter as the weeks go on. This is the tiem last year when he struck a cord and took off, winning races and making the chase! His finishes improved at Indy in the two years he ran, going from 19th in 2010 to 9th in 2011. So what will he do this year? He was good at Pocono when we ran there, and had one of the better cars that wasn't a Hendrick car last week at Loudon. Ryan Newmans finishes here consistently hover just outside the top 10. If he posts some really good practice numbers, he might be someone to consider since he is pretty good on flat tracks. The ones to avoid Paul Menard might be one to watch, but if you will remember, he won this race last year on fuel mileage, he didn't have hte best car. 3 more laps and Jeff Gordon would have won this race!! Everytime we come to Indy, Juan Pablo Montoya is talked about. this is his best chance at an oval race win. However, since his good run there in 2007 where he ran 2nd (a year he won at Sonoma as well), he has just posted crappy finishes. He had the best car that should ahve won a copule of years, yet he just doesn't post the finishes. With the way he is running this year, which is crappier than most year,s believe it or not, you just have to think he is either A) going to run like crap or B) going to run good and crash and ruin it. While I did mention the Roush cars as ones to watch, I also have to throw in this little word of caution. Fords are cars to avoid at teh same time. They may run well, but they just don't win. Yeah, a Ford hasn't won Indy since 1999, and a Roush Ford has never won here... it was either a Yates Ford with Dale Jarrett, or Ricky Rudd in his self owned Ford that won here. Plus, the Petty Ford's run even crappier... even when they had Kahne. Ambrose and Almirola both run like junk here and will probably finish in the 20s. I have also not mentioned Toyotas. They did well at Pocono, but in general, on these tracks that require long straightaways, a lot of power, and a lot of durability to survive the day, the Toyotas just don't have the program this year. Plus, Hamlin, Logano, and even Kyle Busch all have crappy stats here. These guys have some commnication lapse going on, plus Kyle Busch just isn't focused. I don't think anyone on this forum really needs a good excuse to stay away from Toyotas, but this is one right here. Hamlin is such a good flat tracker, and one should think his finishes at Indy would reflect that, but they don't. My Picks 1) Tony Stewart 2) Kasey Kahne 3) Jeff Gordon All Chevrolets!!! |
Jeff Gordon
Jimmie Johnson Tony Stewart |
Harvick.
Johnson. Stewart. I would love to see Harvick blow another Quarter panel of a car. :) Nice rundown as always Duane. |
1) Jeff Gordon
2) Brad Keselowski 3) Juan Pablo Montoya |
Since this weeks race is presented by Crown Royal, will Brent swap his Budweiser for a tall shot of Crown Royal???? LoL! Maybe his wife could out drink him if he used one of those!
And for all you Harvick fans, this should bring back some happy memories... |
Here's my picks
1) Tony Stewart 2) Jeff Gordon 3) Dale Earnhardt Jr. |
Dale Earnhardt Jr
Jimmie Johnson Martin Truex Jr. |
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88(Dale jr.) 24(Jeff Gordon) 14(Tony Stewart)
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1. #48 Jimmie Johnson 2. #5 Kasey Kahne 3. #29 Kevin Harvick <center>http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/s...2_1107copy.jpg
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You realize when I say Jimmie has three wins and four top 10s... .that does not mean three wins and then four additional top 10s, that means three wins and one other ifnish in the top 10, and everything else is in the 20s and teens, or crash or engine, right?
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Originally Posted by Cowboy6622
(Post 479825)
EDITING NOTE
This is being posted on July 22nd, however, the race is not until July 29th. Do not panic and think you need to be posting this afternoon! The Nationwide series in Chicagoland today. Poll Also, I'm trying out a new rundown format this week. Tell me what you think! Points, Intro, and Congratulatory Remarks It is time to begin our long stretch of 17 consecutive races to the end of the season! Two weeks ago, Brent won Loudon and by default, earned the Segment 3 points lead. At the same time, he knocked a big dent in the lead held by our points leader, Carl Martin. So lets take a look at how our overall points are looking as we head into Indianapolis.... 1) carlm54stl 2033 Leader 2) JuniorCar 1989 -44 3) Leprechaun93 1946 -87 4) Cowboy6622 1944 -89 5) SupplySgt 1931 -102 6) bblackstone 1905 -128 7) zjerry 1886 -147 8) 02 Earnhardt 1877 -156 9) 03JGMonte 1856 -177 10) lougreen03 1850 -186 11) montecarlo3831 1840 -196 12) butch049 1815 -218 13) 77GP 1747 -286 14) silverfish33 1711 -322 15) STUMPMI 1655 -378 16) adgm2005 1435 17) RocknSS04 1142 18) SuperSportSteve 928 19) 01 Monte SS 908 20) Ricks 2006 SS 520 21) 06 Mistre SS 428 22) Teacher 306 23) yutzybrian 211 24) nichols2k 175 25) MnteCarloSS47 124 26) monte06ltz 92 27) Racebound2 83 28) Possum 77 29) 04chevyboy 76 30) Emily666 61 31) SS Means Super Sexy 60 32) mousehousemoparman 54 Segment 3 1) JuniorCar 126 Leader 2) MnteCrloSS47 124 -2 3) SupplySgt 122 -4 4) zjerry 117 -9 5) Ricks 2006 SS 117 -9 6) 02 Earnhardt 115 -11 7) Leprechaun93 115 -11 8) butch049 114 -12 9) nichols2k 113 -13 10) STUMPMI 110 -16 11) Cowboy6622 110 -16 12) adgm2005 109 -17 13) 03JGMonte 109 -17 14) 77GP 107 -19 15) montecarlo3831 107 -19 16) carlm54stl 101 -25 17) lougreen03 95 -31 18) bblackstone 95 -31 19) silverfish33 91 -35 Defending Winner zjerry The "Indianapolis of the West" Years ago, a track of similar shape and configuration existed in Ontario, California. The stock cars used to end their season there. Richard Petty infamously won his last title in 1979 at the Ontario Motor Speedway in Southern Cali over Darrell Waltrip. It was the same shape, only smaller at 2.0 miles, whereas Indy is 2.5. It held great racing, but just like Riverside road course, real estate, progress and emininet domain did the track in.... http://www.dfphotoservices.com/galle...ock/stock2.jpg Much like Indy, this race even held three wide starts for a time period.... http://www.woodbrothersracing.com/im...edway_1971.jpg But it wasn't Indy, it never held the same luster, and for years, NASCAR never ran a rectangle shaped track after Ontario was dropped in 1980. Indianapolis History We all know how historic this place is with the now Indy Car series. NASCAR did tire tests and "informal" tests here for years, and the track actually made improvements ot the infield and added pit exit roads for the stock cars to use. This was a much anticipated event and at one point in time, ti actually held a bigger purse than the Daytona 500. Tony Stewart said this race was a bigger one to him than Daytona! It is the same length as Daytona, 2.5 miles, but has flat corners and a notably rectangular shape. http://amberie.files.wordpress.com/2...eedway-sad.gif And this place is as old as cars themselves... http://clickamericana.com/wp-content...edway-1922.jpg However, some people as of lat ehave been complaining about boring racing at Indy, especially with this new COT. I know I hate this place in the video games. I can dominate Pocono, I can handle Loudon and Martnisville... but I just can't hold my own at Indy. Haven't been able to do it in any video game for 10-15 years now. THIS WEEKEND AT INDY The Favorites Far and above, the clear favorites this week have to be the cars with the bow ties on the front. Chevrolet is going for 10 consecutive wins at the Brickyard. Their combination of horsepower and flat track cornering serves them well here. And certainly, the most favorite Chevrolets to win have to be the Hendrick cars. Jeff Gordon is one of the best here, statistically. And he needs a good run to even begin thinking about being in the chase this year. Kasey Kahne ran well here early in his career for Evernham, but the last couple of years in Fords and Toyotas haven't been kind to him. I have to think that Kasey Kahne will be running very well when we return to here for the Two Hendrick drivers are notably absent here. I will get to them later.... and both may surprise you as to why.... Tony Stewart is another Hendrick related car and I've got to say, he is good at Indy, and he is a hot hand right now. However, his bad run last week at Loudon on a flat track might not be the best sign for him. HE even finished way better than he ran last week. Pony wasn't as strong as I thought he should be at Pocono, but he was really good at Michigan.... Kevin Harvick is also a good driver at Indy and notably blew the quarterfender off his car doing a burnout the year he won here. He is pretty decent here, and what has held the team back all year is the 1.5 program. Well this isn't a 1.5 mile race.... it's a 2.5 mile flat track! And although I crack this track up to be a good one for the Chevrolets, there is one Ford team to watch out for. Greg Biffle. Greg Biffle has four consecutive Top 10 runs at Indy, and as you remmeber, some of those last 4 years weren't good at all to the 16 team! This year, Biffle is good.. .but in the last few weeks, Biffle has seemed to just "cool down" a little bit. The "Ones to Watch" I notbaly left out Jimmie Johnson and Dale Earnhardt, Jr in the "Favorites" category. Here is why... Jimmie Johnson has won at Indianapolis three times. However, his other finishes include wrecks, engine issues, and finishes in the high teens/twenties in the finishing order. Basically, he is either going to win this race or crash trying. Including those three wins, Jimmie has FOUR finish inside the top 10. Which one will it be? You decide... Dale Earnhardt Jr is a hot hand this year, rising up in the points and just keeps clicking off those top 10s. He is going to need that momentum at Indianapolis. He has TWO top 10 finishes at Indy, coming in 2001 and 2006. Matt Kenseth etiher runs top 5 or runs like crap here, yet never seems to be a contender to win here either. He is the points leader and running well this year, but last week we saw the Ford teams just don't seem to have a good flat track program going right now. The Underdogs Everyone loves a good underdog to cheer for, right? Carl Edwards runs well at Indianapolis every other year. As in a finish in the teens one year, top 5-top 10 the next. This week, he has a new crew chief. He has only won one race without Bob Osbourne on the box. This week, we'll see how he does with this new guy. And last year his finish was 14th, so this should be "The other year" where he runs well at Indy! Brad Keselowski has been getting hotter and hotter as the weeks go on. This is the tiem last year when he struck a cord and took off, winning races and making the chase! His finishes improved at Indy in the two years he ran, going from 19th in 2010 to 9th in 2011. So what will he do this year? He was good at Pocono when we ran there, and had one of the better cars that wasn't a Hendrick car last week at Loudon. Ryan Newmans finishes here consistently hover just outside the top 10. If he posts some really good practice numbers, he might be someone to consider since he is pretty good on flat tracks. The ones to avoid Paul Menard might be one to watch, but if you will remember, he won this race last year on fuel mileage, he didn't have hte best car. 3 more laps and Jeff Gordon would have won this race!! Everytime we come to Indy, Juan Pablo Montoya is talked about. this is his best chance at an oval race win. However, since his good run there in 2007 where he ran 2nd (a year he won at Sonoma as well), he has just posted crappy finishes. He had the best car that should ahve won a copule of years, yet he just doesn't post the finishes. With the way he is running this year, which is crappier than most year,s believe it or not, you just have to think he is either A) going to run like crap or B) going to run good and crash and ruin it. While I did mention the Roush cars as ones to watch, I also have to throw in this little word of caution. Fords are cars to avoid at teh same time. They may run well, but they just don't win. Yeah, a Ford hasn't won Indy since 1999, and a Roush Ford has never won here... it was either a Yates Ford with Dale Jarrett, or Ricky Rudd in his self owned Ford that won here. Plus, the Petty Ford's run even crappier... even when they had Kahne. Ambrose and Almirola both run like junk here and will probably finish in the 20s. I have also not mentioned Toyotas. They did well at Pocono, but in general, on these tracks that require long straightaways, a lot of power, and a lot of durability to survive the day, the Toyotas just don't have the program this year. Plus, Hamlin, Logano, and even Kyle Busch all have crappy stats here. These guys have some commnication lapse going on, plus Kyle Busch just isn't focused. I don't think anyone on this forum really needs a good excuse to stay away from Toyotas, but this is one right here. Hamlin is such a good flat tracker, and one should think his finishes at Indy would reflect that, but they don't. My Picks 1) Tony Stewart 2) Kasey Kahne 3) Jeff Gordon All Chevrolets!!! |
My own favorite Brickyard 400 video. Because I made it! WOOT!
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Not entirely sure if I like the new rundown better or not. At the least, I like both of them about equally well. Just not sure which one I like better.
As far as my picks Kahne Biffle Dale Jr. |
i personally like the old run down better, picks to come later in the week
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There are definitely elements of both rundowns that I like. That's why it's hard to pick one that I like better. There should have been an option saying "I like them both!"
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Good thing we had the week off. It took until now for me to get my sig updated...
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Johnson won '06-'08'09, not quite three in a row.... but he is good here, just not consistent ;)
I hope more people jump on your Jimmie bandwagon, makes it easier to beat all you suckas!!! :) Carl has been doing this video/morph/multimedia thing for a while now.... so why the change from carlm52 to carlm54? |
Kevin Harvick
Paul Menard Jeff Gordon |
Originally Posted by Cowboy6622
(Post 480813)
Johnson won '06-'08'09, not quite three in a row.... but he is good here, just not consistent ;)
I hope more people jump on your Jimmie bandwagon, makes it easier to beat all you suckas!!! :) Carl has been doing this video/morph/multimedia thing for a while now.... so why the change from carlm52 to carlm54? |
He had Chad Knaus when this happened....
And Chad Knaus was there when this crap happened in 2005, at the 2:40 mark in the video... This "Chad" character of yours does not intimidate me..... The "Chad factor" was there when he blew the engine in 2004.... The "Chad factor" was there when eh ran 18th in 2003... And ultimately, the "Chad factor" was there last year when he ran 19th and the year before when he ran 22nd..... And yeah, I'm 4th in the points and trying to organize to get a charge going for the last 17 races, but do please remember that you are addressing the defending champion..... |
He had Chad when he won 5 CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!!!
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I think I'm having more fun bickering with you adn researching Jimmie Johnson facts than I am going to have watching this race.... unless my three guys are running at some point. 1-2-3.
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Originally Posted by Cowboy6622
(Post 480813)
Johnson won '06-'08'09, not quite three in a row.... but he is good here, just not consistent ;)
I hope more people jump on your Jimmie bandwagon, makes it easier to beat all you suckas!!! :) Carl has been doing this video/morph/multimedia thing for a while now.... so why the change from carlm52 to carlm54? For those who are old enough to remember... But I think it referrs to the old show "Car54" where are you!:rotfl: |
I personally:
Dont see Ole JJ winning another championship... To many other Teams have caught up with the Technology.... I believe, Richard Petty will always be King with 7 Championships. and Dale Earnhardt Sr....with his 7 Championships as well ... Both Richard and Dale...were in a League of there own!... NoOne nowadays is no where near the Caliber of drivers they are! They were the "TRUE" Pioneers of the sport... IMO |
I think Jimmie will beat 7 championships. He is the current "dynasty" guy still and he hasn't cooled off that much.
It actually took me until now to get caught up on this thread and ready Duane's rundown. Its long, but I like it. Some good stuff in there - plenty I never knew. And I'm no slouch myself with NASCAR history. The Rundown is always a good read, I just struggle to find reading time. And even less time to post. However, my family knows to leave me alone during the race - I won't be distracted. That's the "me" time...
Originally Posted by Cowboy6622
(Post 480190)
Since this weeks race is presented by Crown Royal, will Brent swap his Budweiser for a tall shot of Crown Royal???? LoL! Maybe his wife could out drink him if he used one of those!
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Jimmie is laid back now like he was the years he won the title... I do'nt think he ever went into teh chase as the favorite, but he always emerged the champion. the year he did enter leading hte points (last year) he lost the thing. They always seem to come to Indy with the thought that they will win or go home on a tow truck. I'm not counting Jimmie out until Talladega anyway.
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run down, what run down?.....
Harvick Dale Jr J Gordon |
Originally Posted by monte carlo 3831
(Post 481431)
run down, what run down?.....
Harvick Dale Jr J Gordon |
Oh My!
Originally Posted by Cowboy6622
(Post 481428)
Jimmie is laid back now like he was the years he won the title... I do'nt think he ever went into teh chase as the favorite, but he always emerged the champion. the year he did enter leading hte points (last year) he lost the thing. They always seem to come to Indy with the thought that they will win or go home on a tow truck. I'm not counting Jimmie out until Talladega anyway.
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I agree
Originally Posted by JuniorCar
(Post 481427)
I think Jimmie will beat 7 championships. He is the current "dynasty" guy still and he hasn't cooled off that much.
It actually took me until now to get caught up on this thread and ready Duane's rundown. Its long, but I like it. Some good stuff in there - plenty I never knew. And I'm no slouch myself with NASCAR history. The Rundown is always a good read, I just struggle to find reading time. And even less time to post. However, my family knows to leave me alone during the race - I won't be distracted. That's the "me" time... I got a bottle in the cupboard. And every other kind of whisky. I rarely drink whisky as it makes me mean. But everybody is always gifting my the stuff. They must think I'm some kind of lush. But I rarely drink the stuff (unless the beer runs out) |
For a Jimmie Johnson fan, Carl doesnt pay a lot of attention or has a short memory span. Jimmie loves talking about the championsip, but traditionally, he isnt on fire until about 10 races to go in the season. How many times was everyone calling Jimmie the favorite? In 06, he wasnt the favorite. in 07, gordon was the favorite. in 08, it was kyle busch and carl edwards. in 09, Mark martin was a favorite. in 2010, denny hamster was the favorite.
jj is on a mission, BUT, it is a quiet one |
Hunter and myself have home court advantage and we are taking this thing. :)
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my picks
1JIMMIE JOHNSON 2 TONY STEWERT 3 HAMLIN:thumbsup::congrats:
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No way dude
Originally Posted by Cowboy6622
(Post 481583)
For a Jimmie Johnson fan, Carl doesnt pay a lot of attention or has a short memory span. Jimmie loves talking about the championsip, but traditionally, he isnt on fire until about 10 races to go in the season. How many times was everyone calling Jimmie the favorite? In 06, he wasnt the favorite. in 07, gordon was the favorite. in 08, it was kyle busch and carl edwards. in 09, Mark martin was a favorite. in 2010, denny hamster was the favorite.
jj is on a mission, BUT, it is a quiet one |
sam hornish jr
kahne mark martin |
Pre-qualifying or practice, I'll go...
(edit) 1. Dale Jr. 2. Denny Hamlin 3. Carl Edwards |
Oh yeah, Carly????
Weren't many stats behidn who was the "Favorite" going into the chase all those years... that was just teh analaysits and who had the "momentum" going in every year.... and Jimmie has never been the favorite oging into the chase and won it... it was alwyas "this is the year xxx is going to knock Jimmie off his pedestal" and Jimmie won anyway.... You need to come out and see the real world sometime, Carly. |
Junior's going to win the championship this year (here and there). Everybody knows it
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