THIS IS NOT THE THREAD TO PICK FOR THE DAYTONA 500!! THAT WOULD BE THE THREAD LINKED BELOW

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YOU ARE PICKING FOR TWO RACES THIS WEEK!!!!!

I'll post the list of who is going to be in each race when such information comes available after Daytona 500 qualifying. Just remember to pick for Duel 1 and Duel 2.


Points, Intro

Defending Winners:
Duel 1: Cowboy6622
Duel 2: JuniorCar Brent

Also, congrats to Silverfish33 for winning the Budweiser Shootout!


Rundown

In the thread above, I have quite a rundown already typed, and I don't see the point in typing another one.


I will say this though. I wouldn't necessarily pick the pole winner and outside front row driver for this race. Those two positions are locked in on qualifying day. They don't have an incentive to race. Plus, if they damage their car and have ot go to a back up, they lose that front row starting position for the Daytona 500. All they need to do is be running at teh end. One year, with just a few laps to go, Mark Martin pulled over and let the whole field go by to not tear up his car. Just take your risks accordingly.


I WON'T BE HERE TO POST RESULTS IMMEDIATELY!!!!

I'm student teacing right now, and I won't get out of the school until 3:30 or so, which puts me back at college around, oh, 3:45. The first race is starting at 1:00. I'd imagine mnay of you will be at work at this time as well. If you guys want to know the results before I get here to post them, the best way is a spreadsheet. In column A, put the user name, in B, C, and D, post the results of their picks in order, 1, 2, 3. Then in Column E, etner this formula: =(B1+C1+D1). Then go to Sort, and sort by Column E, including all cells ot the side. But anyway, barring unforeseen circumstances, I will ahve the results for duel 1 up by 3:45, and Duel 2 if it is over at htat point.

77GP gets first call on who is in charge in my absence. So if you want, it's yours to calculate, Jerry.

Pick List







Duel 1:

1 99 Carl Edwards Ford Fastenal - - -
2 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet Diet Mountain Dew / National Guard - - -
3 9 Marcos Ambrose Ford Stanley - - -
4 6 Ricky Stenhouse Jr. Ford Ford EcoBoost - - -
5 21 Trevor Bayne Ford Motorcraft / Quick Lane Tire & Auto Center - - -
6 14 Tony Stewart Chevrolet Office Depot / Mobil 1 - - -
7 43 Aric Almirola Ford Smithfield "Helping Hungry Homes" - - -
8 27 Paul Menard Chevrolet Peak / Menards - - -
9 34 David Ragan Ford Scorpion Truck Bed Liners - - -
10 22 A.J. Allmendinger Dodge Shell / Pennzoil - - -
11 2 Brad Keselowski Dodge Miller Lite - - -
12 29 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet Budweiser - - -
13 31 Jeff Burton Chevrolet Caterpillar - - -
14 42 Juan Montoya Chevrolet Target - - -
15 30 David Stremme Toyota Inception Motorsports - - -
16 1 Jamie McMurray Chevrolet Bass Pro Shops / Tracker Boats - - -
17 10 Danica Patrick Chevrolet GoDaddy.com - - -
18 32 Terry Labonte Ford C&J Energy - - -
19 140 Michael Waltrip Toyota Aaron's Dream Machine - - -
20 11 Denny Hamlin Toyota FedEx Express - - -
21 98 Michael McDowell Ford K-Love / Curb Records - - -
22 83 Landon Cassill Toyota Burger King - - -
23 38 David Gilliland Ford MHP Power Pak Pudding - - -
24 37 Mike Wallace Ford Poynt.com - - -
25 7 Robby Gordon Dodge Mapei / Menards / Speed Energy - - -



Duel 2
1 16 Greg Biffle 194.087 46.37 997
2 13 Casey Mears 193.844 46.43 541
3 24 Jeff Gordon 193.803 46.44 2287
4 56 Martin Truex Jr. 193.665 46.47 937
5 55 Mark Martin 193.503 46.51 930
6 48 Jimmie Johnson 193.449 46.52 2304
7 17 Matt Kenseth 193.245 46.57 2330
8 39 Ryan Newman 193.224 46.58 2284
9 20 Joey Logano 192.868 46.66 902
10 15 Clint Bowyer 192.843 46.67 1047
11 5 Kasey Kahne 192.583 46.73 1041
12 26 Tony Raines 192.534 46.74 129
13 18 Kyle Busch 191.873 46.91 2246
14 09 Kenny Wallace 191.567 46.98 0
15 36 Dave Blaney 191.506 47.00 508
16 51 Kurt Busch 191.363 47.03 2262
17 33 Elliott Sadler 191.270 47.05 0
18 87 Joe Nemechek 191.160 47.08 0
19 78 Regan Smith 191.063 47.10 82
20 47 Bobby Labonte 190.022 47.36 670
21 97 Bill Elliott 189.950 47.38 100
22 93 David Reutimann 189.235 47.56 757
23 23 Robert Richardson Jr. 188.438 47.76 0
24 49 J.J. Yeley 187.954 47.88 192

My Picks

I'm screwed..... I shouldn't have put so many numbers in the jar.

Picks for all Daytona Races, 2012-1/1 - YouTube

I can't bring myself to go by the video entirely. I'm going to fudge some.

Duel 1

1) , Danica Patrick
2) Jeff Burton
3) Kevin Harvick



Duel 2

1) Bobby Labonte
2) Kyle Busch...
3) Jimmie Johnson

 

Also a reminder: I'm leaving the rule in effect that you may still pick the same driver multiple times.

 

Well, unless your going to pick by starting position like Duane, we can't make picks in this thread until this afternoon. Junior will win 1 Duel

 

Watching the qualifying right now. Ford made an effort this year to take the front row at Daytona. Their cars aren't overheating, the Chevrolets are. The announcers think the hot temperatures are hurting the power in the GM's on the 2nd lap.


Ford has generally had good cooling systems over the years compared to the General in the street cars, looks like that is carrying over to the race cars as well. The SBC had a good system though. Dodge and Ford always seemed to have that covered.



I think Daytona qualifying should be done without a restrictor plate. What do you guys think? They spend os much time practicing for the Daytona 500, twice as much as any other race, so why not qualify without plates? That would make it more exciting than just who can hold their foot on the floor the best.



This year, the pole speed is fast right now. Carl Edwards has it as I write, with a 194.738. That's really just a few miles per hour faster than in 1968, Cale Yarborough won it with a 189.222 mph, 1969 saw David Pearson run the fastest at 190.029, and 1970 saw Cale Yarborough run a 194.015 mph lap to set the poll, which is right about where Carl Edwards is running now. So basicaly, my Torino with a 429 and the right setup was as fast as these COT's. In 1971, NASCAR set rules requirement on the "aero cars" for the first time and that really slowed them down. Then Bill Elliott ran that 210.364 mph lap in 1987, and it has never been challenged.

I would like to be coming to Daytona for pole qualifying with the intent that we could break records every year. Watching those races from the old days when thye were keeping up with race speeds and setting records year after year was just exciting to see. I'd like to be living throuhg times like that now, where we go to Daytona each year wondering if we will see a new fastest qualifying speed.

 

The idea behind the restictor plate is to slow the cars down enough that they don't get too airborn when wrecking. And we've seen, guys can certainly wreck while qualifying. The problem when they get airborn is keeping the cars from going into the grandstands. But I guess there are less people in the grandstands during qualifying. So its not as bad when the cars wreck into the grandstand into a small crowd of fans. They got more fans

 

It's time for picks, guys! The even number starters get duel 2, the odd numbers in duel 1.


I think though that we should avoid picking Carl Edwards or Greg Biffle for these things. By setting the front row this week, their positions are locked pending they finish the Gatorade Duels, no matter where they finish. If they damage their cars, they have to start in the rear. I just don't see where they have much incentive to race right now. I think they will hang around the rear and just ride for the race, make sure they finish, and keep that front row starting position.


I'm getting excited for this season now!!!

 

Duel #1

1. Dale Jr.
2. Dale Jr.
2. Dale Jr.

Duel #2

1. Danica Patrick
2. Danica Patrick
3. Danica Patrick

She does have Pony to work with in her race

 

Duel 1.
1. Casey Kayne
2. Brad Kesolowski
3. Mark Martin

Duel 2.
1. Kyle Busch
2. Jimmy Johnson
3. Curt Busch

 

Race 1
Stewart
Keselowski
Allmendinger

Race 2
Gordon
Kenny Walace
Johnson

 

duel 1
Dale Earnhardt Jr
Kenny Wallace
Carl Edwards.

Duel 2
Jeff Gordon
Jimmie Johnson
Greg Biffle.