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Old 10-12-2010, 08:22 AM
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Well I upgraded from JL standard to Rockford Fosgate Premium and there is so much of a deference in sound quality and noise its absolutely unbelievable. I can here notes that Ive never herd with the JL RCAs, its the little subtle things.

The power wire is more likely to get damaged in the engine area than it is once its in the cabin. Never been worried about running it were I did, ive always been more concerned about it in the engine area as I said. I always inspect it every time I check my oil.
 
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:38 AM
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Im running 0/1 gauge wire down the passenger side it was easy for me to go there & ran the RCAs down the drivers which seems to be what everyone does
 
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really well where was eveyrone when i was asking for advice because the center console is the advice i got haha, and it's what i saw another member do. oh well is still prefer it there, less wire.


still you must of had a problem with your old rca's because you really shoudln't be able to hear a dif, def not a a substantial dif, if you heard a large dif, you had a grounding issue in your rca's.
 
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jaws2008
But I didnt run speaker wire along with power wire.

Also running along the sides of the car does also allow for maximum difference between the power wire and all other wire.
Nobody is telling you that the way you did it is wrong or right so no need to explain or justify, I simply explained why I ran mine down the center console since so many of you were confused as to why.

If you're using wire that needs to be that far apart in order to prevent noise interference then i'm thinking you might want to use better wire. 6" of separation is plenty!

For the record, I am by no means saying that you WILL have noise if you run your power/signal cables alongside each other but based on how much work it takes to run the wires wouldn't you rather eliminate a POSSIBLE source of noise interference so you don't have to go through the hassle of rerouting your wires? It's the "Do it right the first time" train of thought, at least that's how I see it.

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It's really not that hard, 1 screw for the main part, than 4 bolts and 1 screw hold down the rest.
True story

Originally Posted by 03JGMonte
Im running 0/1 gauge wire down the passenger side it was easy for me to go there & ran the RCAs down the drivers which seems to be what everyone does
Nope, not everyone But it works just the same

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really well where was eveyrone when i was asking for advice because the center console is the advice i got haha, and it's what i saw another member do. oh well is still prefer it there, less wire.
It really doesn't matter where it's ran, the main thing is that you try and keep the signal and power cables separated. Neither way is right or wrong, they both are an option and at the end of the day accomplish the same thing.

As most of you seen in my build log, I installed my bass **** on the side of my center console between my seat so the console was coming out regardless.
 
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:14 PM
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well another reason its better, one fish point, less carpet to fish, as aposed to the 15 inches you need to pull around the corner, unless you wanna pull out the back seat side paneling, or the 6-8" you pull both wires at the same time through if you use the center console. its all the same result though in the end. as long as you keep them apart.


let me explain something about EMI, for one, its much larger radiouse in AC (whitch you will not find in your car) also, high voltages, such as the 500 volts in a ballast of a light in a building will have a massive amount of EMI. 12 volts DC EMI is so small it's not even to be considered, now there is a bit of a lie to my story, the rca's and speaker wires "technicly" will be an altornating current (AC) since it's sending signals in waves, thought the polaritys never switch, power is power, ground is ground. the emi is larger, because the voltages may exceed 12v.

speaker wires are to be kept away from rca's i'd say double that you might worry about in a power line for the amp. even though the signal in the rca's is the same that comes out from the amp to the speakers, there is a delay and a difference in voltages, and if you send an interruption, you will have a muffled note, kind like pulling a couple 1's out of a byte being sent over a network line; you ask for purple, you get green. you're going to have ghost noise, or "white noise" coming through with your music. that is the result your avoiding. the concludes my lesson for the day
 

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Old 10-12-2010, 11:46 PM
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Point 1:

Im not saying you did it wrong

Point 2:

Im just backing up my way of doing

Point 3:

As you can see in my "rebuild" of my new system that I posted. I did do some rewire and I did not use cheap wire. At the moment all of my wire is top of the line Rockford Fosgate. Power wire will be top of the line 1/0 Stinger wire, just needs installed.

My theory about most things especially as it applies to car stereo in this case. Your system will sound as good as the weakest link. So as I kept upgrading to bigger and better things but, it can only get so good, as my speaker wire and RCAs were holding me back. I upgraded them and now its at its fullest potential and it sounds amazing.

But I do want to add that running your speakers in bridged to 8ohm for fronts as well as the rears on a JL slash amp makes a massive difference. I love that amp because you can run 4 ohm or 8ohm and not loose out put as most amps do. As long as channels 1 and 2 are the same ohm as 3 and 4.

I do resize some of this material on this thread is NA to what the OP wanted lol
 

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Originally Posted by jaws2008
But I do want to add that running your speakers in bridged to 8ohm for fronts as well as the rears on a JL slash amp makes a massive difference. I love that amp because you can run 4 ohm or 8ohm and not loose out put as most amps do.
Yeah, the slash series amps have a regulated intelligent power supply so they'll do rated power at 11v+ and impedances between 3 and 8 ohms per channel when bridged.

Are you the same guy who had the 6x9's playing mids only and the fronts playing highs only?

I realize you ran your amp in bridged mode to get more power out of it but don't understand why you'd want to run your left and right speakers on one channel, totally eliminating your L/R stereo separation. But if you're that same guy, no explanation needed
 
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Old 10-13-2010, 06:37 AM
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Yeah, the slash series amps have a regulated intelligent power supply so they'll do rated power at 11v+ and impedances between 3 and 8 ohms per channel when bridged.

Are you the same guy who had the 6x9's playing mids only and the fronts playing highs only?

I realize you ran your amp in bridged mode to get more power out of it but don't understand why you'd want to run your left and right speakers on one channel, totally eliminating your L/R stereo separation. But if you're that same guy, no explanation needed
NO i dont think im that guy lol.

But the main reason I did it is my HU runs fronts and the other out put is on Rear/Sub which I wanted on SUB. So basically the HU thinks its just fronts but I have it playing front and rear. So I have taken the 2 channel and then y split it at the amp so it plugs into the amp correctly and gets full power. SO after all that it was senseless to try and have them on individual channels if the HU doesnt think it is anyway

And obviously the True fronts are on channels 1 an 2 and the true rears are on 3 and 4. So it can be tuned right on the amp
 
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you don't have fading with that set up though you should really get a better deck, with T\A trust me once you use time alignment, you'll never wanna go back. takes a long time to tune in though, plus you have to train your ears to hear the delays, whitch took me a long time.

the speakers wires were never holding you back...unless they were to small, you don't seem to understand these things literly make no difference, if you heard a difference, like i said, your old rca's likley had a bad ground in them.
 

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Old 10-13-2010, 09:15 AM
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Well those RCAs were about 3.5 years old if that makes any diff.
 


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