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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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i did a little more research, i would replace your battery. if the problem continues check the wire going from your alternator to your battery. but do it at night. see if on any of your electrical wires if it is arcing to anything. this can be hard cause sometimes if there is even just the slightest whole, it will arc to another part of the car very slightly. but you will be able to see it. i owned a grand am previously and i had a similar problem but one of my spark plug wires had cracked enough that there was almost a constant electrical arc between the wire and my engine. i believe that if there is a whole and it is arcing to ground, it would drain your battery. its not a common problem for a wire to arc, but it is likely.
 
Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:10 AM
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There is a TSB for the battery's in the 06-97 montes. I haven't needed to replace mine but a lot of folks have had this issue. The fix is to replace it with an updated battery.
Your dealer might give you **** because all of the aftermarket electronics you got.
I'll see if I can find the TSB.
See TSB below.
Some folks that had this issue went with an aftermarket battery and it never occured again. most went with Optima Red Top.
 
Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:14 AM
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Subject: No Crank / No Start Condition - Concern May Be Intermittent - keywords nostart nocrank #PIC3906A - (11/29/2006)



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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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Wow, thanks for all the replies guys.

I'll check for corrosion sometime here, I think there had been a bit on the post when we jumped it last. And one of these nights if it gets above 10 degrees I'll go check for any arcs.

When I probably end up going with a new battery what should I look for?
 
Old Apr 8, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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i have always done sears diehard batteries. they aren't to expensice but they have always been a very reliable, and affordable battery. but yellow top batteries are nice if you can afford them.
 
Old Apr 8, 2008 | 01:24 PM
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This is the typical scenario for NEEDING a Gauge instead of a Info-only Light.

Your Alternator needs to put-out more current than the system is using. A Gauge would show you if you are Charging or going into debt on the battery when everything you got is pulling amps.

The first thing to do ... after you get the Battery Jumped and the Car Running ... is test the Battery's Voltage with the Engine at around 2,000 RPM's.
You should be showing above 14 Volts at the Battery ... enough Voltage for the Car to have 12 Volts to run and some additional voltage to charge the Battery as there is a Load on the System.

Then, turn-on your various accessories and see if the Sound System makes for undercharging. If that's it ... you need a Higher Amperage Alternator.
 
Old Apr 8, 2008 | 04:32 PM
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I would highly doubt he needs a higher output alternator. Im running a stocker on a 3800 Series II with over 1600 Watts over 0 gauge cable, and I only get a slight dim, and I dont have any problems with the car turning over or anything. Works fine. I would put my money on a bad cell in the battery. Try an optima yellowtop. Also, check any cables near the battery for corrosion, if any cable is slightly cut or such, it will draw power from the battery if its touching another metal surface.
 
Old Apr 8, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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This is the typical scenario for NEEDING a Gauge instead of a Info-only Light.

Your Alternator needs to put-out more current than the system is using. A Gauge would show you if you are Charging or going into debt on the battery when everything you got is pulling amps.

The first thing to do ... after you get the Battery Jumped and the Car Running ... is test the Battery's Voltage with the Engine at around 2,000 RPM's.
You should be showing above 14 Volts at the Battery ... enough Voltage for the Car to have 12 Volts to run and some additional voltage to charge the Battery as there is a Load on the System.

Then, turn-on your various accessories and see if the Sound System makes for undercharging. If that's it ... you need a Higher Amperage Alternator.
This is what I did when I had it tested a month or two ago, the guy running it told me that the alternator was running strong and that the battery was doing okay and that was with the subs hitting during, so I don't know. A yellowtop would be nice, but I might have to wait until my first paycheck this summer to get me one of those, unless I can talk my dad into buying it...
 
Old Apr 8, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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I have a yellow top in mine and have seen and been told it is to much for astock system.
I have had never had a issue with mine. other then the one that ended up with a bad cell.

I belive this was due to the body shop tryign to charge it all the time while they played the system in it with out the car running.

But you cna also get away with a red or even the blue top in a car with a system.
and there are others out there that are just as good but cheaper then the optima.
I think i would do a exide version the next time. they seem to be as good if not better and cheaper.
 



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