Engine/Transmission/Performance Adders Chat about your engine, transmission, nitrous, superchargers, turbos, and tuning.

ZZP 1.0 PCM Worth it

Old Sep 9, 2009 | 09:54 PM
  #11  
paintballerr78's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 125
Default

only way to find out is to try it myself
 
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 09:57 PM
  #12  
03SS/00GSE/93LX's Avatar
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 565
Default

It seems that most of us who own Monte Carlos do throw a code cause the Monte PCM is so touchy. The emulator won't work on the 05 and I think the 04, but since he as an 03 I guess that will not be a problem.
Why wouldn't an emulator work? The mechanical emulator will always work- the electrical emulator should work as well- it simply sends the PCM the same voltage that a functioning 02 sensor would when reading catalyzed exhaust.
 
Old Sep 10, 2009 | 08:53 AM
  #13  
ChibiBlackSheep's Avatar

Monte Of The Month -- August 2014
10 Year Member5 Year Member3 Year Member1 Year Member
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 25,145
From: Southeast PA
15 Year Member
Default

Originally Posted by 03SS/00GSE/93LX
Why wouldn't an emulator work? The mechanical emulator will always work- the electrical emulator should work as well- it simply sends the PCM the same voltage that a functioning 02 sensor would when reading catalyzed exhaust.
In 2005 GM changed the way the rear O2 sensor reads, it picks up more data than the emulator sends. They would have had to make a different emulator just for that purpose but decided against it.
 
Old Sep 10, 2009 | 08:55 AM
  #14  
ChibiBlackSheep's Avatar

Monte Of The Month -- August 2014
10 Year Member5 Year Member3 Year Member1 Year Member
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 25,145
From: Southeast PA
15 Year Member
Default

Originally Posted by 03SS/00GSE/93LX
I completely disagree. It's worth it for the skip shift, elimination of torque management, and shift point improvement alone.
I was simply letting him know that he should modify his engine before he buys the PCM. On a stock engine before modifications it isn't worth it. Once he buys a downpipe, and once he buys the CAI, and once he gets other bolt on mods, the PCM will need it's timing adjusted again.

On a stock engine it's not worth it if you are going to modify later, I was telling him to mod first then PCM. If you ONLY wanted to get a PCM as your ONLY mod, then sure it would be fine to get because of the reasons you stated, but if you know you are going to do some mods, then get that done first. Then order your PCM once, and be done with it.
 
Old Sep 10, 2009 | 03:14 PM
  #15  
03SS/00GSE/93LX's Avatar
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 565
Default

Ah, I see. Reading > me- that's what I get for reading threads too fast!
 
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 09:35 AM
  #16  
paintballerr78's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 125
Default

now which would be better the 3800performance 1.0 pcm or the ZZP PCM
 
Old Sep 17, 2009 | 03:04 PM
  #17  
Pure2sin's Avatar
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 651
From: St. Paul MN
Default

Originally Posted by paintballerr78
now which would be better the 3800performance 1.0 pcm or the ZZP PCM
Honestly I got my PCM from 3800perf and it has been great. The only thing that happened was my warning lights all went on after installing it (a week later) but if you just drive the car for two days they went off. I have only heard bad stories about the ZZP PCM but I like the products they put out and have bought a ton of stuff from them.
 
Old Sep 17, 2009 | 11:03 PM
  #18  
paintballerr78's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 125
Default

choice is which one to buy now
 
Old Sep 18, 2009 | 01:34 AM
  #19  
2003supersport's Avatar
Photobucket
Monte Of The Month -- May 2009
5 Year Member3 Year Member1 Year Member
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 774
From: S.F. Bay Area
15 Year Member
Default

i bought my original pcm from zzp, the 1.0 and it worked great. at that time i only had powerlog, downpipe, CAI i believe and the skip shift was fun. didnt notice a huge performance increase though. i personally think that if your in for the long modding haul, you should buy your pcm last, just because then you can have it tweaked to your setup more. by then, you'll probably have read more threads though and you'll want a custom tune instead of a basic tune. something i wish i did, but i was impatient and just wanted the parts haha. my custom tune pulled about 24WHP more out of my car than just the zzp tune. thats pretty crazy.
 
Old Sep 18, 2009 | 08:24 AM
  #20  
ChibiBlackSheep's Avatar

Monte Of The Month -- August 2014
10 Year Member5 Year Member3 Year Member1 Year Member
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 25,145
From: Southeast PA
15 Year Member
Default

the custom tune is always going to be 1,000x better.

Take the time to find people on forums that live near you and have a good reputation for tuning.
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:17 AM.