Worth doing top end swap?
#1
Worth doing top end swap?
Ok im debating weather to go with a top end swap on my 2001 monte carlo or just flat out pulling the motor and throwing a L67 on there or a 5.3 what do u guys think? And for a top end swap what would be an estimate price range?
#2
RE: Worth doing top end swap?
A top swap is going to run you from $1,000-$2000 if you go all out. If you do a top swap, you'll either want to add an external trans cooler, (which go anywhere from$50-$150) or upgrade to a heavy duty trans. I personally would do a motor and trans swap and put the L67 w/the 4T65E-HD trans in it. It will cost more, but you won't have to worry about blowing your non HD trans or hurting your motor.
#3
RE: Worth doing top end swap?
If it were me (no tools and lazy) I would sell the 01 and buy a 04 or 05 that already has the L67. I mean if your going to spend that much might as well upgrade the whole package and have a newer car and less miles...
#4
RE: Worth doing top end swap?
there arent many of the SC's 04-05 montes out there and you will loose quite a bit in depreciation when upgrading... so i personally wouldnt recomend this option...
as for your stock NA trany... it will be plenty fine for the SC application with a trany cooler. to be completely honest your motor with a top swap and the trany you have now will be much faster then the l67 with the HD trany... this is cause of two reasons: first, the gearing is diff in your trany which helps acceleration. and second your motor has higher compression... this give much more power for the same amount of boost... the only down fall to the compression is that it makes tuning more difficult and a higher chance that if you have issues that something could break. like headgasket! or pistons that go BOOM.
personally i would go with the top swap... but it all depends on how much money you have, what your plans are for the car, -IE how fast you want it. another thing to consider is your abilities to work on the car... if you are able to do the work then by all means do the top swap... but if it is something that you dont know how to do and doubt you will then i would do the l67 and trany swap... that way when you take it to a mechanic it is basicly a GTP or 05 monte that they are familier with and not a hybrid car that will leave them scratching their heads.
as for your stock NA trany... it will be plenty fine for the SC application with a trany cooler. to be completely honest your motor with a top swap and the trany you have now will be much faster then the l67 with the HD trany... this is cause of two reasons: first, the gearing is diff in your trany which helps acceleration. and second your motor has higher compression... this give much more power for the same amount of boost... the only down fall to the compression is that it makes tuning more difficult and a higher chance that if you have issues that something could break. like headgasket! or pistons that go BOOM.
personally i would go with the top swap... but it all depends on how much money you have, what your plans are for the car, -IE how fast you want it. another thing to consider is your abilities to work on the car... if you are able to do the work then by all means do the top swap... but if it is something that you dont know how to do and doubt you will then i would do the l67 and trany swap... that way when you take it to a mechanic it is basicly a GTP or 05 monte that they are familier with and not a hybrid car that will leave them scratching their heads.
#6
RE: Worth doing top end swap?
ORIGINAL: z34phoenix
there arent many of the SC's 04-05 montes out there and you will loose quite a bit in depreciation when upgrading... so i personally wouldnt recomend this option...
there arent many of the SC's 04-05 montes out there and you will loose quite a bit in depreciation when upgrading... so i personally wouldnt recomend this option...
#7
RE: Worth doing top end swap?
If you really watch your budget and source all your own parts- I think $500-750 installed is totally doable if you have time to wait for deals.
I think the decision as to whether or not to swap the whole engine is -what is the condition of your current engine/trans? If its getting questionable or high mileage- then do a whole L67/4t65hd swap. If its lower mileage and in good shape, then a top swap would be my choice.
I think the decision as to whether or not to swap the whole engine is -what is the condition of your current engine/trans? If its getting questionable or high mileage- then do a whole L67/4t65hd swap. If its lower mileage and in good shape, then a top swap would be my choice.
#8
RE: Worth doing top end swap?
i wouldn't do the 5.3... no offense to our kind 06-07 SS owners out there, but that is too much weight on the front of the car, putting the weight distribution badly on the front axle... meaning your rear will want to come around a little easier. this reason, and the fact that the 3.9 is a little cheaper is the reason the police use the 3.9 instead of hte 5.3 in the new impalas.
whichever way you go, be careful.
whichever way you go, be careful.
#9
RE: Worth doing top end swap?
ORIGINAL: Cowboy6622
i wouldn't do the 5.3... no offense to our kind 06-07 SS owners out there, but that is too much weight on the front of the car, putting the weight distribution badly on the front axle... meaning your rear will want to come around a little easier. this reason, and the fact that the 3.9 is a little cheaper is the reason the police use the 3.9 instead of hte 5.3 in the new impalas.
whichever way you go, be careful.
i wouldn't do the 5.3... no offense to our kind 06-07 SS owners out there, but that is too much weight on the front of the car, putting the weight distribution badly on the front axle... meaning your rear will want to come around a little easier. this reason, and the fact that the 3.9 is a little cheaper is the reason the police use the 3.9 instead of hte 5.3 in the new impalas.
whichever way you go, be careful.
#10
RE: Worth doing top end swap?
ORIGINAL: rysZ34
I don't know why people are so adament towards top swaps, they're dangerous, potentially costly, and why not swap an L67 and have a motor designed to take the extra power of the supercharger. Maybe I'm just not brave enough...lol.
I don't know why people are so adament towards top swaps, they're dangerous, potentially costly, and why not swap an L67 and have a motor designed to take the extra power of the supercharger. Maybe I'm just not brave enough...lol.