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Old 12-01-2008, 10:23 PM
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Does anyone kno if the whipple supercharger is good also is it good for the price
 
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yes, yes it is heres why:
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The results are breathtaking…0-60 times drop dramatically, up to 60% power increases throughout the operating range, incredible throttle response, emission compliance and virtually maintenance-free. How is this possible? It’s the integration of the Whipple Twin Screw Supercharger and Whipple's superior engineering that makes it all possible.

Over the past fifteen years, Whipple Superchargers has risen above the competition to become the true supercharging leaders with proven performance, reliability, customer service and quality. Other companies claim to be leaders with incredible power levels, but the results speak for themselves.
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Our relentless commitment to creating products that exceed the cutting edge of design, performance and quality has given us the reputation as innovators and leaders in the high performance industry.

Every Whipple product goes through extensive research and development to ensure proper operation in all applications. Our standard development practice involves the measurement of over 100 parameters utilizing our own custom designed data acquisition computers. Measurements include individual cylinder air/fuel ratio from a true wide range Horiba sensor, individual cylinder pressure and cylinder combustion analysis as well as solid-state exhaust gas temperature. Our expert calibration team has over 15 years of OEM experience calibrating the most stringent emission standards such as Super Ultra Low Emission Vehicles (SULEV) and Zero Emission Vehicles (PZEV). No other supercharger company has a more advanced staff in computer technology and emsission friendly products. Every product gets extensive R&D time on either our DynoJet Chassis dyno, our Superflow engine dyno or our Land & Sea propshaft dyno. This ensures that you get maximum power from our product and long, trouble free operation.














Whipple Charger

Centrifugal

Turbo

Roots


Response

Awesome idle-to-redline rpm power. No lag.

Poor low-speed response, similar to "turbo lag."

Poor low-speed response. Turbo lag.

Good low to mid range power.


Driveability

Increased lugging ability in higher gears. Increased power throughout rpm range.

Must downshift to maintain boost level.

Must downshift to maintain boost level.

Increased lugging ability in higher gears.


Engine Torque Curve

Virtually flat curve; ideal characteristic.

Often worse than uncharged engine at low speeds.

Often worse than uncharged engine at low speeds.

Wide range; fall-off can occur at high speeds.


Heat Buildup

Low; intercoolers are usually not needed.

Low; intercoolers are usually not needed.

High; may need intercooler

High; limits boost available.


Noise

Very low noise levels.

Typically very noisy.

Very low noise levels.

Typically very noisy.


Adiabatic Efficiency

70-80%

60-78%

60-75% Peak

40-55%
 
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bumpin has one...im sure he will tell u if its been worth it
 
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Old 12-02-2008, 09:01 PM
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Where would you get one?
 
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that is true they did stop making them

 
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Old 12-02-2008, 09:53 PM
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mabye could find one on ebay?
 
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yah im sure ppl have used ones

 
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Old 12-02-2008, 10:55 PM
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i found a couple of them on ebay but they are all ford brand could that work for the monte?
 
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im gonna have to say no...
 
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Does anyone kno if the whipple supercharger is good also is it good for the price
The question is too vague. Of course any whipple is a great supercharger- arguably one of the best out there- and definitely superior to factory Eaton blowers like the ones that come on our V6's.

However, asking if it is a good mod for a 3800 is a totally different question. Before you even begin to consider one, you must have:

headers, ported heads, a pretty big cam, an IC, a built transmission

Basically, if you don't already have a nearly maxed out M90 setup, then there is no point in putting a whipple on because you still have better $/hp mods to go.

If you do happen to have a fully built M90 setup- you really need to ask yourself why you want to do it. You will make less power than the turbo guys, you'll spend more money than the turbo guys, and you'll run slower than the turbo guys. Thats a very important point to understand. If your goal is all out power- a turbo setup is the only option. If you still are considering a whipple setup, then keep reading:

This is the original kit for the 3800:

http://www.wbodystore.com/grandprix/...-new-p-25.html

which still needed tons more money invested into it to make it work. It will never be made again in that kit form, and it is doubtful anyone ever will release a kit for it. Option A is to check www.clubgp.com/forum in the classifieds frequently to try and find a used kit- but keep in mind you will spend a ton more money making it work.

IMO, you should go to whipple and buy a raw 140AX and snout(no idea what these go for). Then call up a Yella Terra dealer (australian) and buy their lower intake manifold/intercooler for a 3800 to whipple 140AX (~$1100). Now you'll need an inlet adaptor to mount a throttle body to, but all the ones made are for rwd unless you can find one used on clubgp that someone is willing to separate from their kit-unlikely. PRJ performance is working on a adaptor for this, but it is not done yet. He is looking around $1000 for the adaptor, plus you need to buy a 90mm LSX style throttle body (~$400), and a 90* bypass valve from whipple (~$200). You can buy a pullies for the setup from South Florida Pulley HQ- they're a 1 off pulley that runs $125 each with a 3-4 week lead time. Also, if you don't already have aftermarket fuel rails- you'll need those to clear the blower $400.

Once you have all of that, the only part you'll still need is some tubing to connect the bypass on the two adaptors together, and for the PCV and such too, but its all little stuff. That is the best option for putting a whipple on your 3800.


As you can see- with the mods above, plus the whipple- you're quickly getting into a $10,000+ engine setup, and that alone is enough for you to be considering your other options. There are many other platforms that can go faster for much cheaper, but it all depends what you want to do.

If you have any questions, my monte is one of a handful of running, driving whipple charged 3800s- so feel free to ask.


 


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