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Old May 21, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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Well the time has come. Im wanting to do an engine swap on my little 'ol 3400. First, I wanna know if its possible to just do a top swap from my LA1 to a L67, yeah its probably a stupid question but I dont know the answer. All this should go down within the next few months if not, its gonna haappen for sure in january. The reason is, I found a guy willing to do the labor for pretty much free when he closes his bussiness. If you guys could give me as much info as you think I need, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank You.
 
Old May 21, 2010 | 01:12 PM
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Just research like a mad-man.

You can't top-swap your 3400 with an L67, the only "top-swap" you could do would be a 3400/3500 hybrid.

You're going to need a wiring harness, PCM, engine, and transmission from the donor vehicle, as well as a tuner to put your VIN into the PCM
 
Old May 21, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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Oh trust me Ive been doing all kinds of research the last couple days making sure this is what im gonna wanna do with my money and I am pretty sure this is a for sure thing. Is there anything you guys can think of that would be a better option for the money. Keep in mind I want a fast car that I can still mod the hell out of. So, is there any reason I shouldnt do this??
 
Old May 21, 2010 | 04:05 PM
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how about that 3400 to 3500, is there any real hp made there?
 
Old May 21, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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A 3500 will be another 20-30hp on top of what the 3400 makes. It's worth it if you want to keep that engine and not deal with an engine swap. The reason why a 3400 can't do an L67 top swap is because they are completely different blocks. The 3400 is smaller and is a 60 degree v6, while the 3800 is bigger and is a 90 degree v6.

The L67 swap is going to be your cheapest way to go, but be prepared, there are a lotta other expenses that come with modding. I'm finding that out the hard way.
 
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What kind of expenses are we talking here?? I mean, Im gonna have somone else do the labor for me and its all gonna be a set $2200 for the whole deal. So is there somthing other than the trans, axle, motor, and wiring??
I got a big question here also (well its not big but its left me in the dark these last couple days) is this gonna be converting into rear wheel drive?? i have thought for the longest time that all 6th gens are front wheel drive until I was on youtube today and saw a 6th gen doing back wheel donuts. Now, it was struggling to get around so thhis leads me to belive he didnt drop the money to do a full custom job for rear wheel drive since there is plenty of other things you could do before wasting the money for such a custom job??
I dont know what to think now and like I said, im in the freaking dark here??
 
Old May 21, 2010 | 05:59 PM
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ALL 5th-7th gen Monte's are front wheel drive. The video you saw on youtube must have been someone that did a custom conversion.

Your best bet if you want that much more power is to just get yourself a used L67 (the 3800 S/C) with transmission, and do an entire engine swap.
 
Old May 21, 2010 | 06:32 PM
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What kind of expenses are we talking here??
Breaking stuff is one- another is having repairs done if you can't do the repair work yourself. Shops won't want to touch a swapped car with a 10 foot pole.


Im gonna have somone else do the labor for me and its all gonna be a set $2200 for the whole deal.
Then labor isn't free, lol- what engine/trans etc are you getting- and what is the mileage? That sounds extremely high for an L67/4t65hd swap (especially with "free labor")- the whole powertrain shouldn't cost more than a grand unless you're getting something with super low mileage.

Keep in mind- for not too much more than your swap price- you could buy a complete 97 or 98 GTP with about 100k-125k miles with an L67 already in it. I mean we're talking ones with minor cosmetic issues and such starting at $2500. Also keep in mind that a complete totalled GTP isn't going to be worth anywhere near that- I paid $1500 for a complete totalled 98 gtp with about 70k miles like 4 or 5 years ago- I can't imagine they go for much over $1000 now with how much the car prices have tanked.

I got a big question here also (well its not big but its left me in the dark these last couple days) is this gonna be converting into rear wheel drive??
lol, no- you'll still be FWD. I don't think there is any car that is FWD that has bolt a bolt in RWD powertrain and drivetrain from another factory vehicle. Only RWD L67's I know of are in Australia anyways- at least stock ones.
 
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Definately budget your swap. Set out how much you think you'll spend, then have $1000 more than that for "just in case".
 
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you never know:p

 



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