Is nitrous safe???
#11
RE: Is nitrous safe???
yeah but if the bottle is off then the throttle activation cannot engauge. the bottle would only be in at the speedway and it would never be on while im doing daily driving. it seems ok but everything has its issues
#12
RE: Is nitrous safe???
you for got to put a bracket on the front of yoru signature
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Also, it seems like when I made mine, it woudl only work if i typed out the word image instead of the IMG
yours says this
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needs to be like this
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Also, it seems like when I made mine, it woudl only work if i typed out the word image instead of the IMG
#13
RE: Is nitrous safe???
ORIGINAL: Cowboy6622
heres the thing about nitrous oxide... it burns MUCH hotter than gasoline.
heres the thing about nitrous oxide... it burns MUCH hotter than gasoline.
the o-rings on the pistons,you could burn hte top of thepistons off,the valves (they'll actually harden and crystalize if you use it too much), and the block itself if you run it too long.
nitrous is only safe to use for a few seconds..
im only running a 5 pound bottle. i have a ten in my garage but i think that will be two much
Does anyone know where i could buy a nitrous kit like this with a 5 pound bottle and a double purge system??? Thanks
i'd think you wouldn't want to put temporary horsepower that 99 times out of 100 causes problems.
it seems to me like a push button would be better than throttle activated... everytime yo uaccidently push the throttle so far you'd activate your nitrous...
The push button is retarded because there is so much more possibility for error. Think about that for a second- you're going down the track- push the button at the top of first and hold it all the way down the track- you absolutely have to remember to let off the button BEFORE you let off the gas pedal. If you do that in reverse order, you'll probably destroy the engine.
With a throttle switch- you roll into the gas out of the hole- hit WOT towards the top of first- and it begins spraying. At the end of the strip, you let off the gas and the nitrous stops spraying automatically- you don't need to do anything.
#14
RE: Is nitrous safe???
pistons don't have rings? who the hell taught you about cars? theres a ring around that piston that keeps the oil from getting into the combustion.... running the engine hotter is bad for that ring.
if you don't beleivee, burn up your car... not my money.
if you don't beleivee, burn up your car... not my money.
#16
RE: Is nitrous safe???
the o-rings on the pistons
ORIGINAL: Cowboy6622
pistons don't have rings?who the hell taught you about cars?
pistons don't have rings?who the hell taught you about cars?
Let me give you a little lesson since you want to chew me out even though you are the one who either doesn't know what he's talking about, or cannot speak correctly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O-ring
The first line says "An o-ring is a loop of elastomer with a round (o-shaped) cross-section used as a mechanical seal".
(FYI an elastomer is an elastic polymer- rubber/plastic). First off, piston rings are not made out of polymers- they are typically cast iron or steel. Secondly, piston rings are definitely not O shaped in cross section- they are typically a polygon similarly shaped to a rectangle. So I hate to break it to you- but a piston ring is not an o-ring.
See picture: (note, not a single one has a O shaped cross section)
theres a ring around that piston that keeps the oil from getting into the combustion.... running the engine hotter is bad for that ring.
The top two rings will go long before the oil control ring would ever have an issue. The top rings have a gap that closes with the more heat you put into them- once you run out of gap and the ring ends butt together- that is usually when you have a ring or piston land failure. I don't ever see a case where the oil control ring (what you are talking about) would fail before the other two rings let loose and tore up the engine.
if you don't beleivee, burn up your car... not my money.
What I mean:
heres the thing about nitrous oxide... it burns MUCH hotter than gasoline
you could burn hte top of thepistons off
the valves (they'll actually harden and crystalize if you use it too much),
and the block itself if you run it too long
The melting point of straight cast iron is like 1200*C, and the melting point of raw aluminum is like 600*C. Even with a high alloy aluminum- there is no way you could burn/melt the cylinder wall before piston turned to liquid.
your water temperature gauge won't register as hot as teh engine is actually getting either
i'd think you wouldn't want to put temporary horsepower that 99 times out of 100 causes problems.
everytime yo uaccidently push the throttle so far you'd activate your nitrous
if you don't beleivee, burn up your car... not my money.
I'm not trying to be rude about this stuff- but honestly man- if you have no clue what you're talking about, then don't post. Its hard enough for a newbie to make decisions (I was there once)- but people like you make it 10x harder posting false and misinformation.
Also, if someone proves what you say is completely BS- you really shouldn't take offense and jump down their throat. I realize this is just the internet and you can be an e-thug all you want, but you had to figure someone would call you out for posting all of this misinformation in one thread.
#17
RE: Is nitrous safe???
Nitrous can be a very good power adder but you have to be on top of your car. Ya need to know the ins and outs of installing and know what to read with how it is running along with how to read plugs and knock if you get too much spray. Having a dyno tune tto your specific set up wouldn't be an all bad idea. Depending on the size of the shot depends on the amount of timing you have to put in it. For zust a straight foward kit I would honestly recomend a zex kit due to the way it controls the flows of fuel and nitrous to make sure they stay the same with the proper A/F ratios.
#19
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here is a shot for you.
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1...5344eo8vi2.jpg
now do i think this is the way it will always turn out? NO!
but i have seen the pistons melted to the inside of the block, i have also see the cranks broke. I have defently see the heads come off the motor and also i have personally shot a piston threw the hood of one of my cars.
But you have to also understand when i personally did it it was on my bracket car not my daily driver.
this goes back to what i said in the git go. i would not recommend it on a daily driven car.
Also it is not legal to run on the road with a operable system on the city streets.
AS for experience i have been in or around cars since i was a kid. and i am no longer that so i guess after the years of being under a hood of a car i can tell youIN MY BEST OPINION i dont think it is worth it on a daily driven car that you need to go to work and or school with.
you can also do a search on the inter net on googel for the dangers of nitrous and it will come up with tons of info on it. the photo above is from a Honda board.
I have seen similar results in 350 Chevy's and also fords and even hemi motors
SO i dont think it is bias to one brand motor .
if you want it on your car then do it . it is not our car to say one way or the other. but from what i have read here it seems to me that you have your mind set on it and this is what you would like to do. then go for it. as for where to buy a kit you can get them from summit or jegs or several other speed shops in the country. Some are better then others.
the best thing you can do for you or your car is to make sure you read up on it and know the dangers of the system and the nos. that your pumping in to the car SO that your educated on it and not just blindly doing it. So you can chose the right system for your car and your needs.
I would not ever trust what you read on a bord UNLESS you know that person and trust them.
and know for sure that pearson knows what they are talkign about for damed sure and can back it up some how with proven results
SO to answer your org. question .
"IS nitrous safe?"
NO, but it can be! it can also be real bad for you if you are not educated enough to know how to use it , or willing to learn how to do it so it is not damageign to your motor.
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1...5344eo8vi2.jpg
now do i think this is the way it will always turn out? NO!
but i have seen the pistons melted to the inside of the block, i have also see the cranks broke. I have defently see the heads come off the motor and also i have personally shot a piston threw the hood of one of my cars.
But you have to also understand when i personally did it it was on my bracket car not my daily driver.
this goes back to what i said in the git go. i would not recommend it on a daily driven car.
Also it is not legal to run on the road with a operable system on the city streets.
AS for experience i have been in or around cars since i was a kid. and i am no longer that so i guess after the years of being under a hood of a car i can tell youIN MY BEST OPINION i dont think it is worth it on a daily driven car that you need to go to work and or school with.
you can also do a search on the inter net on googel for the dangers of nitrous and it will come up with tons of info on it. the photo above is from a Honda board.
I have seen similar results in 350 Chevy's and also fords and even hemi motors
SO i dont think it is bias to one brand motor .
if you want it on your car then do it . it is not our car to say one way or the other. but from what i have read here it seems to me that you have your mind set on it and this is what you would like to do. then go for it. as for where to buy a kit you can get them from summit or jegs or several other speed shops in the country. Some are better then others.
the best thing you can do for you or your car is to make sure you read up on it and know the dangers of the system and the nos. that your pumping in to the car SO that your educated on it and not just blindly doing it. So you can chose the right system for your car and your needs.
I would not ever trust what you read on a bord UNLESS you know that person and trust them.
and know for sure that pearson knows what they are talkign about for damed sure and can back it up some how with proven results
SO to answer your org. question .
"IS nitrous safe?"
NO, but it can be! it can also be real bad for you if you are not educated enough to know how to use it , or willing to learn how to do it so it is not damageign to your motor.
#20
RE: Is nitrous safe???
ORIGINAL: mickey
here is a shot for you.
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1...5344eo8vi2.jpg
now do i think this is the way it will always turn out? NO!
but i have seen the pistons melted to the inside of the block, i have also see the cranks broke. I have defently see the heads come off the motor and also i have personally shot a piston threw the hood of one of my cars.
here is a shot for you.
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1...5344eo8vi2.jpg
now do i think this is the way it will always turn out? NO!
but i have seen the pistons melted to the inside of the block, i have also see the cranks broke. I have defently see the heads come off the motor and also i have personally shot a piston threw the hood of one of my cars.
I can find plenty of pictures of destroyed turbo, supercharged, and NA engines as well- it all comes back to the fact that if you want to race your car, regardless what aspiration it is, that you should know and understand how it works and what the possible dangers are.
NO, but it can be! it can also be real bad for you if you are not educated enough to know how to use it , or willing to learn how to do it so it is not damageign to your motor.
The only reason I'm really reccomending this over something like a top swap (since it would be about the same price either way)- is that there is so much less to go wrong in the install process- and the fact that the car behaves just as stock 99.9% of the time- except for the occasion where he wants to take it to the strip and put the bottle in.A top swap would effect daily drivability as well as gas mileage- both things that nitrous wouldn't effect.