New Coil Packs ??
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Wait a second. ZZP says they use stock on their car (so did I). They said they have SEEN instances where aftermarket fail (who else said that?). I mentioned that people dyno testing the car with MSD coil packs often have to change the coil packs, they discuss dyno tests showing no improvement.
Really, I just paraphrase stuff that I have read, just because a source was quoted the information is not different. I try to save a lot of my time, and people's time on the forum.
I provide information that I find to be true. Real Life tested? No. Because it would waste money. I have the K&N system and I think it's trash. I wish I didn't have it and was a member of forums before I bought it.
If someone told me not to get it because it's bad, and they never had it, I would believe them still. If they said "no don't get this, it's proven inefficient in things I've read everywhere".
I try to help people modify their cars to the fullest extent of their budget. I like to steer people away from bad choices that could be a waste of money and explain why I think that.
I don't have a turbo, but I can talk to people about turbos because I probably have done more research than a lot of the people potentially buying the turbo system.
I don't have an L67 engine, but I could tell you how to safely modify it to be fast. Hey, I could even EXPLAIN the procedure to do maintenance on them, without ever doing it myself.
I'm not someone who talks out of their
. I do my research, I find reasons to back up what I say. I don't need to pull out bookmarks and links and quote sources all the time, my reputation does that for me.
This topic is now done, any further rebuttles and arguments can be settled outside this thread. I believe Blazed SS has enough information on his original question regarding the coil packs now lol
Really, I just paraphrase stuff that I have read, just because a source was quoted the information is not different. I try to save a lot of my time, and people's time on the forum.
I provide information that I find to be true. Real Life tested? No. Because it would waste money. I have the K&N system and I think it's trash. I wish I didn't have it and was a member of forums before I bought it.
If someone told me not to get it because it's bad, and they never had it, I would believe them still. If they said "no don't get this, it's proven inefficient in things I've read everywhere".
I try to help people modify their cars to the fullest extent of their budget. I like to steer people away from bad choices that could be a waste of money and explain why I think that.
I don't have a turbo, but I can talk to people about turbos because I probably have done more research than a lot of the people potentially buying the turbo system.
I don't have an L67 engine, but I could tell you how to safely modify it to be fast. Hey, I could even EXPLAIN the procedure to do maintenance on them, without ever doing it myself.
I'm not someone who talks out of their
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This topic is now done, any further rebuttles and arguments can be settled outside this thread. I believe Blazed SS has enough information on his original question regarding the coil packs now lol
I never put down your countless hours of researching or the fact that your life revolves around the Monte Carlo, all I asked was how you could judge something you've never owned or encountered face-to-face. Bringing up your post count, or your reputation doesn't have any thing to do with that matter. To satisfy my argument, I only ask that you don't judge products you don't have. It's truly as simple as that good sir. You don't see me saying that owning a Camaro is BAD for one's health simply because Camaro owners are likely to die, but I don't own a Camaro so how can I speak as if I do? (If you can't get humor from my lame attempt at poking fun at this drama, well, we just can't be friends
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As for Blazed, best of luck with your decision. I wouldn't do MSD coil packs for the reasons we cleared up long ago. If I had not found mine at a reduced price, there's no way I would have ever thought twice about buying them. The red housing, IMO, just says "Hey, Look at me!" Takes away from the more 'important' modifications under my hood. And quite frankly, there's enough horror stories out there about them to make us all lose a little sleep at night. So with that in mind, I say just paint the OEM and be happy with the new/custom look. If they're only at 4k miles, they're barely broke in! I had zero issues on my stock ones until around 80k miles (as far as I know?) so I would say they have plenty of live left in them, but that is just my individual experience which has came from HAVING those parts. Keep us posted on the progress though
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yea I was looking at the Accel ones also.![Facepalm](https://montecarloforum.com/forum/images/smilies/facepalm.gif)
I knew there would be some on here that have tried them and if they were worth it or not .![Thumbsup](https://montecarloforum.com/forum/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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I feel like I asked about the jet chip that will give me 100 hp LOL![ROTFL](https://montecarloforum.com/forum/images/smilies/lmao.gif)
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I knew there would be some on here that have tried them and if they were worth it or not .
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I feel like I asked about the jet chip that will give me 100 hp LOL
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First, I will say first hand, stock coils LAST a LONG time. GM used the SAME coils since '94 (maybe longer) on the 3100/3400/L36 (only the L67 had different ones). I had over 150,000K miles on my 3100 Grand Am coils before one went bad. I know some still on original ones. VERY durable.
I'm running L67 coils on my 3800 Monte, the wife's 3400 Impala and formally my '94 3100 Grand Am (now those are on my '02 Grand Am GT). Because of the low failure rate on stock coils, I recommend L67, but I would limit the budget to about $30 for a used set. I don't know how they compare with MSD. As stated, I've read many complaint about the MSD coils (and I read some claiming no issues with MSD warranties). But the most popular thing I've read, not worth the money, next to no gain.
What I can say, I've noticed a little improvement in throttle response with the L67 coils and for the last like 1-2 months, I have been driving my '94 Grand Am with the original coils back on (as this was when it was up for sale). IMO (and it might be the placebo effect), I noticed a LOSS of performance when I put the stockers back on. I was kinda depressed driving it the final 1-2 months because of it.
That's MY input on the coil debate.
NOW, if you've doing an HV3, Chibi mentioned some ER Rockers I think. You may also want to couple that with a High Velocity Throttle Body, or take the road I did and mod an L67 Throttle Body to work. Just food for thought.
Best of luck plotting your winter mods. Also, anything from ZZP, I would wait until Black Friday. They normally do some NICE discounts then.
I'm running L67 coils on my 3800 Monte, the wife's 3400 Impala and formally my '94 3100 Grand Am (now those are on my '02 Grand Am GT). Because of the low failure rate on stock coils, I recommend L67, but I would limit the budget to about $30 for a used set. I don't know how they compare with MSD. As stated, I've read many complaint about the MSD coils (and I read some claiming no issues with MSD warranties). But the most popular thing I've read, not worth the money, next to no gain.
What I can say, I've noticed a little improvement in throttle response with the L67 coils and for the last like 1-2 months, I have been driving my '94 Grand Am with the original coils back on (as this was when it was up for sale). IMO (and it might be the placebo effect), I noticed a LOSS of performance when I put the stockers back on. I was kinda depressed driving it the final 1-2 months because of it.
That's MY input on the coil debate.
NOW, if you've doing an HV3, Chibi mentioned some ER Rockers I think. You may also want to couple that with a High Velocity Throttle Body, or take the road I did and mod an L67 Throttle Body to work. Just food for thought.
Best of luck plotting your winter mods. Also, anything from ZZP, I would wait until Black Friday. They normally do some NICE discounts then.
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It pretty much comes down to what u want, if u like MSD go for em, pretty much all do the same it seems, so its all in looks, personally id paint the stock ones & this tread kinda makes me want to paint my coil packs now lol
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First, I will say first hand, stock coils LAST a LONG time. GM used the SAME coils since '94 (maybe longer) on the 3100/3400/L36 (only the L67 had different ones). I had over 150,000K miles on my 3100 Grand Am coils before one went bad. I know some still on original ones. VERY durable.
I'm running L67 coils on my 3800 Monte, the wife's 3400 Impala and formally my '94 3100 Grand Am (now those are on my '02 Grand Am GT). Because of the low failure rate on stock coils, I recommend L67, but I would limit the budget to about $30 for a used set. I don't know how they compare with MSD. As stated, I've read many complaint about the MSD coils (and I read some claiming no issues with MSD warranties). But the most popular thing I've read, not worth the money, next to no gain.
What I can say, I've noticed a little improvement in throttle response with the L67 coils and for the last like 1-2 months, I have been driving my '94 Grand Am with the original coils back on (as this was when it was up for sale). IMO (and it might be the placebo effect), I noticed a LOSS of performance when I put the stockers back on. I was kinda depressed driving it the final 1-2 months because of it.
That's MY input on the coil debate.
NOW, if you've doing an HV3, Chibi mentioned some ER Rockers I think. You may also want to couple that with a High Velocity Throttle Body, or take the road I did and mod an L67 Throttle Body to work. Just food for thought.
Best of luck plotting your winter mods. Also, anything from ZZP, I would wait until Black Friday. They normally do some NICE discounts then.
I'm running L67 coils on my 3800 Monte, the wife's 3400 Impala and formally my '94 3100 Grand Am (now those are on my '02 Grand Am GT). Because of the low failure rate on stock coils, I recommend L67, but I would limit the budget to about $30 for a used set. I don't know how they compare with MSD. As stated, I've read many complaint about the MSD coils (and I read some claiming no issues with MSD warranties). But the most popular thing I've read, not worth the money, next to no gain.
What I can say, I've noticed a little improvement in throttle response with the L67 coils and for the last like 1-2 months, I have been driving my '94 Grand Am with the original coils back on (as this was when it was up for sale). IMO (and it might be the placebo effect), I noticed a LOSS of performance when I put the stockers back on. I was kinda depressed driving it the final 1-2 months because of it.
That's MY input on the coil debate.
NOW, if you've doing an HV3, Chibi mentioned some ER Rockers I think. You may also want to couple that with a High Velocity Throttle Body, or take the road I did and mod an L67 Throttle Body to work. Just food for thought.
Best of luck plotting your winter mods. Also, anything from ZZP, I would wait until Black Friday. They normally do some NICE discounts then.
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I'm not someone who talks out of their
. I do my research, I find reasons to back up what I say. I don't need to pull out bookmarks and links and quote sources all the time, my reputation does that for me.
This topic is now done, any further rebuttles and arguments can be settled outside this thread. I believe Blazed SS has enough information on his original question regarding the coil packs now lol
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This topic is now done, any further rebuttles and arguments can be settled outside this thread. I believe Blazed SS has enough information on his original question regarding the coil packs now lol
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