Engine/Transmission/Performance Adders Chat about your engine, transmission, nitrous, superchargers, turbos, and tuning.

How to get rid of knock?!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 03-25-2013, 11:54 PM
S.O.G.'s Avatar
5 Year Member
3 Year Member1 Year Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 513
Angry How to get rid of knock?!

Just a bit frustrated. I have all the supporting mods to run a 3.4 pulley including a tune and I'm still seeing knock! before the tune, I had close to 4 degrees of knock. today I took my cat for a spin since it was nice out, did a quick pull to test out the new pulley and tune... and for some reason my boost gauge only read 7pounds of boost and read 2.5 degrees of knock. I thought a tune would for sure let me SAFELY run a smaller pulley should I take it back to the tuner for my money back and try someone else?? any advice?
 
  #2  
Old 03-26-2013, 12:34 AM
Enzo354's Avatar
STILL SLOW
Monte Of The Month -- May 2010
10 Year Member
5 Year Member3 Year Member1 Year Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Nubraska
Posts: 7,082
Default

What are your supporting mods?
 
  #3  
Old 03-26-2013, 08:05 AM
ChibiBlackSheep's Avatar

Monte Of The Month -- August 2014
15 Year Member
10 Year Member5 Year Member3 Year Member1 Year Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Southeast PA
Posts: 25,136
Default

There's no such thing as having all of the supporting mods.

There's a recommendation of what you can run, but each car is different. That's why we tell people to MOD, SCAN, Tune. If your tune isn't sufficient for the pulley, then you have to change the pulley size back to a larger one.

You don't want the tuner to just dump fuel at the engine so you can run a 3.4. You want to run it correctly. So you either need to pulley up and tune again, or mod further.
 
  #4  
Old 03-26-2013, 09:06 AM
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: MD.
Posts: 5,152
Default

Safe bet would be to go inter cooled... Or as said pulley up. Consider a 3.6
 
  #5  
Old 03-26-2013, 09:59 AM
S.O.G.'s Avatar
5 Year Member
3 Year Member1 Year Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 513
Default

I have k&n intake speed daddy headers cat+ res delete aftermarket mufflers 180tstat colder plugs and thicker spark wires. when I had my 3.8 pulley I was seeing 0 knock. I went directly to 3.4 as zzp and intense racing recommended.

I wish I had the money for an intercooler lol

So now I gotta go back up in pulley? I'm going to try 3.6. should I re tune after switching back to a 3.6?
 
  #6  
Old 03-26-2013, 10:07 AM
S.O.G.'s Avatar
5 Year Member
3 Year Member1 Year Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 513
Default

also, will I need to change the belt size or does the 3.4 and the 3.6 use the same belt?
 
  #7  
Old 03-26-2013, 10:23 AM
ChibiBlackSheep's Avatar

Monte Of The Month -- August 2014
15 Year Member
10 Year Member5 Year Member3 Year Member1 Year Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Southeast PA
Posts: 25,136
Default

not 100% but I'm pretty sure the belt size is different.

And yes, you should get a retune, you can probably run a little more timing and less fuel when you are at the 3.6.

Then I would save up and probably get modded rockers
 
  #8  
Old 03-26-2013, 10:52 AM
nitehawkjcb's Avatar
Monte Of The Month -- April 2012
Monte Of The Month -- December 2014
15 Year Member
10 Year Member5 Year Member3 Year Member1 Year Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,194
Default

Keep your timing at 16*. ALWAYS. It's not worth the extra 10 HP. Several people with fairly heavily modded L67's have told me keep the timing stock and run as much boost as you can w/o knock.

You may be able to use your stock S/C belt with a 3.6 pulley, but there may be belt slip issues.

+1 on the modded rockers idea, unless you want to go with a cam.
 
  #9  
Old 03-26-2013, 08:36 PM
S.O.G.'s Avatar
5 Year Member
3 Year Member1 Year Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 513
Default

My timing is at 12 is 16 the stock timing? I Will look into the belt size difference, go back up to a 3.6 and re tune there.

should I tune with the stock pulley first before I drop to a 3.6? or tune after installing the 3.6?

what's weird is that I did another short pull and saw 0 knock my buddy thinks it could be a bad vacuum line?

I'm goin to cam once I have enough saved up I'm about half way there
 
  #10  
Old 03-26-2013, 08:43 PM
nitehawkjcb's Avatar
Monte Of The Month -- April 2012
Monte Of The Month -- December 2014
15 Year Member
10 Year Member5 Year Member3 Year Member1 Year Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,194
Default

12 is stock from what I've heard, when you get into tuning though a lot of people end up running 16-20. I don't know the specifics TBH, but if you scan at WOT you should get 16* timing plus as much boost as you can run without KR.
 


Quick Reply: How to get rid of knock?!



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:05 PM.