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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 02:37 AM
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I finished my build and its all back together, but it wont start. Its cranking, not very consistently though, and just wont turn over. Its all hooked up fine, and yes Im getting spark, and fuel. My coil packs are all hooked up, etc. Someone on cgp said it could be the crank key. I cant figure it out.
Thank you for reading...Any idea's/suggestions/solutions ?

Please post....I really appreciate anyone's `HELP

I just can't figure it Out ? Why me ?
 

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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 09:14 AM
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Time to double check EVERYTHING! evetylittle sensor, every wire, plug gaps, plug wire, firing order, check everything you touched while in there
 
Old Sep 26, 2010 | 09:33 AM
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..Hi `Brock, sorry 2 read that you are having problems with your Monte It's also way beyond my intellectual automotive knowledge to advise you of a solution to your prob(s)
I resorted to Dr Googles 2 see what I could find: Below is the results...I hope that you can extract something that will help in your problem....Good Luck 4-Sure

Servicing GM's 3800 V6 Engines

3.8L V6 engine has had a production run lasting more ... ... If you have a 3800 that cranks but won't start because there is no spark, ... Another way to figure out if a misfire is a bad coil is to swap two of the coils on the coil pack. ... GM recommends using “top tier” gasoline that contains higher levels of ...
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AutoPartsDirectToYou.Info » Archive » How to Replace Intake ...

Feb 14, 2008 ... First shop wanted to replace the engine. After a tow to the dealer they fixed it for big cash. ... Changed my manifold and now Engine won't start. .... Could you please email the pictures on how to repair GM 3.8L Intake manifold? ..... So I did the intake swap like everyone said, lower as well as ...
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Top Swap Info and Faqs, Also lots of 3800 Info - 3.8L V6 Naturaly ...

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But First Some General Engine Information about Our 3800's, the Engine Years are GP. ... Fluids Oil(a change needs to be done after Swap and before engine is started) ... It took me about 11 hours of work from start to finish, ... their Transmisions) that the added 40 - 60 Hp won't kill the Trans ...
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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Does anyOne `Know ?
 
Old Sep 26, 2010 | 02:44 PM
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not sure either, im sure ryan or mike or someone will stop by.

do you have pics of the build tho?
 
Old Sep 26, 2010 | 05:46 PM
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Thanks guys, and alien I checked it all a few times. Ok so we sat for about 3 hours and narrowed it down to the crank key or crank position sensor. Guess I get to pull off the harmonic balancer again *yuck* I guess whats happening is that the sensor is getting a bad reading throwing of timing like crazy causing it to almost run in reverse.

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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 05:57 PM
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Well, if it's any consolation, the swap looks nice .
 
Old Sep 26, 2010 | 09:55 PM
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Well, if it's any consolation, the swap looks nice .
the swap looks gorgeous!
 
Old Sep 26, 2010 | 10:26 PM
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If all your coils are working correctly, then chances are it's your crankshaft position sensor. Did you make sure to line up the harmonic balancer and the gear inside? If not, then your crank sensor isn't reading anything right.
 
Old Sep 26, 2010 | 11:22 PM
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Well it has to be right or the bolts wouldnt have gone in correctly.
 



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