6th Gen ('00-'05): E85 Conversion
#21
As far as worrying about making too much power for the trans, that's an odd way to look at it. The beauty of a turbo kit is how easy it is to change power levels. If the setup at full tilt makes 425 whp and you don't want that much, just turn the boost **** down. Then when you get bored later you can turn it up a little more instead of having to swap pulleys and such like on a supercharged setup.
#22
As I mentioned before, that's a hard to answer question. It depends what mix you go with and how much you spray. You can get to e85 octane levels, but it'll take a pretty good amount of meth. Granted that's talking actual e85, not the lower e5X winter stuff.
Also, the real gain doesn't come from the fuel, it comes from upping the boost and timing to take advantage of the extra octane. How much you push the limits also dictates how much it makes.
Not to be rude, but from reading that, you shouldn't bother doing any of this at all until you can save up some cushion money. If you blow a bunch of money on parts and then the thing blows up and you have to scrap the car, you're going to lose a ton of money.
It just doesn't make any financial sense, especially with that kind of mileage.
Also, the real gain doesn't come from the fuel, it comes from upping the boost and timing to take advantage of the extra octane. How much you push the limits also dictates how much it makes.
Not to be rude, but from reading that, you shouldn't bother doing any of this at all until you can save up some cushion money. If you blow a bunch of money on parts and then the thing blows up and you have to scrap the car, you're going to lose a ton of money.
It just doesn't make any financial sense, especially with that kind of mileage.
And I don't really need a new turbo, I just wasn't aware there are any used kits out there since I don't hear of people doing it that often, especially now adays. And my view on the transmission is I only need one capable of handling 330 WHP if I stay supercharged. If I turbo I don't really see a point in turning the boost **** down so I would have to invest more in the transmission.
Last edited by Keudn; 09-13-2017 at 09:15 PM.
#23
I'm aware of the issue with blowing it up, I'm only just starting to save up money for this, I am definently still in the planning phase. And if I was doing this with financial sense I would be selling the car . I love the car and want to get it in good shape and make some power out of it.
#24
I understand that modding in general doesn't make any financial sense. I was just more concerned by your comment about pulling the plug on the car if you had a major failure. Given its age, high mileage, and how much you want to mod it, a major failure is a notable possibility. I'd just hate to see you throw $5k in the trash if you're seriously considering getting rid of it at the first failure.
Its a very valid concern, but unless something really really bad happens after all the modding then since I have a new tranny it should run for many more miles and I will fix whatever breaks. I'm not gonna spend $5k on mods and then dump the car when I have a relatively minor repair, I'd only dump it at that point if something really sucky happens.
#25
That makes sense to me now.
I think a big driving factor to the order you mod it is if you have a daily driver / beater. Reason I ask is because if you dont, the trans should probably be one of the next mods. You'd hate to dump a bunch money into power mods and have it break and then you're out of a car for a month (or whatever their going lead time is at that point).
If you've got a DD and blow the trans up, it won't really matter how long it sits as long as the damage doesn't take out a bunch of hard parts / the case.
I think a big driving factor to the order you mod it is if you have a daily driver / beater. Reason I ask is because if you dont, the trans should probably be one of the next mods. You'd hate to dump a bunch money into power mods and have it break and then you're out of a car for a month (or whatever their going lead time is at that point).
If you've got a DD and blow the trans up, it won't really matter how long it sits as long as the damage doesn't take out a bunch of hard parts / the case.
#26
That makes sense to me now.
I think a big driving factor to the order you mod it is if you have a daily driver / beater. Reason I ask is because if you dont, the trans should probably be one of the next mods. You'd hate to dump a bunch money into power mods and have it break and then you're out of a car for a month (or whatever their going lead time is at that point).
If you've got a DD and blow the trans up, it won't really matter how long it sits as long as the damage doesn't take out a bunch of hard parts / the case.
I think a big driving factor to the order you mod it is if you have a daily driver / beater. Reason I ask is because if you dont, the trans should probably be one of the next mods. You'd hate to dump a bunch money into power mods and have it break and then you're out of a car for a month (or whatever their going lead time is at that point).
If you've got a DD and blow the trans up, it won't really matter how long it sits as long as the damage doesn't take out a bunch of hard parts / the case.