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Let's say you're out on the town one night having a few drinks not hurting anyone.

After awhile you decide it's time to head on home (afterall you have to up by 6am for work) you're on your way home and a cop pulls you over. Wants to know if you've been drinking?

The cop suspects you have, so he has you get out of your car for a field sobriety test. Liketouching your nose with your index finger, saying your ABCs, and the like. You try to comply. You stumble. You make your way through A, C, B, D, Z, F, G, and so on.

The officer now has evidenceyou're intoxicated and reads you your rights. Asks if you understand them so he can arrest you.

PLEASE tell me this????????????

The cop knows your drunk. He knows your judgement is impared. So WHY is it he's reading you your rights and asking if you understand?

Wait!!!! You're drunk. You can't tell you @$$ from a hole in the ground. So how can you understand what your rights are?

So is this arrest legal?

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Old 11-02-2007, 07:55 PM
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The way I see it. If you failed a field sobriety test, and the officer determines you are an immediatedanger to the public safety (or your own safety), he has the right to detain you and bring you in for a full sobriety test at the police station.

Of course if you're too drunk toremember your rights, one could argue that you're too drunk to remember the rules of the road too.

I think it's probably better to just co-operate with the cops. It'll make your life less miserable in the long run. How many times have we seen a show like "Cops" or one of those other police dashboard camera shows, wherea guy runs from the cops, crashes the car, gets injured, and then the cop tells him, "Man, I was only gonna give you a warning for a burnt out taillight."


 
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Yeah but think about it.

If you're too drunk to drive safetly then you're too drunk to understand your rights.

I'm not arguing the fact. Just reasoning the situtation.

 
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Wait, so did you get pulled over or is this a philosophical discussion?
 
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I'm a cop out here in illinois and according to the supreme court we dont even have to read you miranda rights unless you are being interrogated. Interrogated is asking questions which will likely be answeredwith anincriminating statement. Very rarely do you have to read miranda "on the street" anyways, because questioning on the street is different from questioning at the station. Basically mirnada only applies when a resonable person believes you are no longer free to leave (arrested, detained sometimes) and are being asked incriminating statements.
Mirnada is usually an after arrest thing not like on TV. the stop you described is more than enough to get probable cause to make the arrest.
 
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So even if you're arrested out on the street they don't have to read you your rights?

My point about the situation is.............. you know the guy's judgement is impared. So how can he begin to understand any rights he has?

He could be told, "Hey buddy. We're all going down to your house after we lock you up and (use imagination here) to your wife. And this guy being drunk would probably say, "Hey. Okay buddy. Have a good time."



 
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So even if you're arrested out on the street they don't have to read you your rights?

My point about the situation is.............. you know the guy's judgement is impared. So how can he begin to understand any rights he has?

He could be told, "Hey buddy. We're all going down to your house after we lock you up and (use imagination here) to your wife. And this guy being drunk would probably say, "Hey. Okay buddy. Have a good time."



[/align][align=center]RJ, I do understand your `point.[/align][align=center]Is anything you say when you are drunk....held against[/align][align=center]you in a court of law ?[/align][align=center][/align][align=center]Ever since the Supreme Court crafted the Miranda warning in 1966, television programs have used it to add a little spice to their dramas. It's also confused millions of viewers.
The Miranda rights- the "you have the right to remain silent..." routine- are warnings that must be given when a person is in custody for a criminal offense and before the officer asks questions. When a TV detective handcuffs the bad guy and reads the Miranda rights as he's hauled away, it's drama. In real life, it isn't necessary to read Miranda until the arrested suspect is about to be questioned. That's why it's called a pre-interrogation warning.
What about the person who is stopped on suspicion of drunk driving? The officer will ask the driver various questions to establish how much the person has had to drink, where the person is coming from, how much sleep the person had, etc. The officer may ask the person to perform field sobriety tests, including blowing into a portable testing device. All of these things can incriminate the driver, so you might think Miranda should be given. However, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that such a situation is a "roadside interrogation" in which the person is not in custody and doesn't have to be Mirandized. Once the driver is arrested, however, the questioning must stop until Miranda is read, and only then if the driver waives the right to remain silent.
The warning is named for Ernesto Miranda, who was arrested for the rape of a teenage girl in Phoenix. Miranda confessed after being interrogated for two hours. His conviction was thrown out when the Supreme Court ruled that he should have been advised that he had the right to remain silent, that any statements he made could be used against him, and that he had the right to an attorney even if he couldn't afford one. Miranda was scheduled for a new trial, but he angered his girlfriend during a child custody dispute and she revealed that Miranda confessed the rape to her. Ernesto stayed in prison for 14 years. Four years after he was released, Miranda was killed in a barroom brawl. The killer was given his Miranda rights.
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Old 11-05-2007, 05:33 PM
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Space,

We all know any guy who's drunk and told, "You have the right to remain silent." probably isn't going to. He's going to keep running his mouth till he sobers up.

So is anything he says during this time held against him even if he confesses to stalking G. Bush?

 
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RJ,
I'm sure not a lawyer, but I do attempt to read many laws that
may apply to my life.
Ignorance of the law is not excuse!!!!
(I guess by that reasoning, everyone should know every law
in our country...like township/city/county, state, federal,
and on & on : )
I think anything that a intoxicated person says will be recorded
in the officer's report, and he will be the one that will
testify against you [X(][X(]
What you say after Miranda Warning, will be in the suspect
report of their interrogation.
I like the part (Anything you say, can and will be used against you: ), Well `if anything I say can be used against me, I'm not
say'in nothing: )
 


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