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SpinEm_90 05-10-2010 10:49 PM

Detailing Business Help
 
Hey guys! Well I am finally trying to get this detailing business up & running. My dad said I could run it in Troy as a branch off of his business so that way I'd have the huge garage there to work in & I won't rack up the water bill here in Wentzville :rolleyes: I think I have decided on the name as The Final Touch since so many people liked it & all. But anyway so I need help with pricing. I want to be fair & somewhat cheap but have it priced to where I can still make a profit somehow. Since my dad is known for the fairest/cheaper prices in the area, I thought I would try the same thing with the detailing thing.

So yeah here is what I just typed up price wise. Note that once I learn how to use a buffer right, I will add paint buffing & headlight restoration to the list. I am also thinking about doing touch-up paint as an add-on but idk, what do you guys think about that? & eventually depending on what kind of cars I get, I may have a engine cover painting section or something like that. Okay yeah so on to the pricing ideas....

Solo Interior Package: $35
· Vacuum
· Shampoo carpets & mats
· Deep seat clean (fabric or leather)
· Complete dash & plastic protector/shine
· Door panels & door jambs (includes underside of door)
· Windows
· Choice of air freshener


Solo Exterior Package: $30
  • Hand wash
  • Quik wax (add $10 for paste wax)
  • Wheels clean/polished (add $10 for wheel buff)
  • Tire clean & dress
  • Chrome trim polish & rubber
  • Vinyl protector/shine
  • Windows (add $5 for Rain-X treatment)

(Bronze) Package: $30
  • Interior: Vacuum, windows, & choice of air freshener ( add $10 for complete dash & plastic protector/shine)
  • Exterior : Hand wash & dry, wheels clean/polished, tires clean & dress, windows cleaned (add $5 for Rain-X treatment)

(Silver) Package: $60
  • Interior: Vacuum, complete dash & plastic protector/shine, door panels & door jambs (includes underside of door), windows, choice of air freshener
  • Exterior: Hand wash, quik wax (add $10 for paste wax), wheels clean/polished (add $10 for wheel buff), tire clean & dress, windows (add $5 for Rain-X treatment)

(Gold) Package: $100
  • Interior: Vacuum, shampoo carpets & mats, deep seat clean (fabric or leather), complete dash & plastic protector/shine, door panels & door jambs (includes underside of door), windows, choice of air freshener
  • Exterior: Hand wash, paste wax, wheels clean/polished, wheel buff, tire clean & dress, chrome trim polish & rubber, vinyl protector/shine, windows (add $5 for Rain-X treatment)

(Platinum) Package: $130
  • Interior: Vacuum, shampoo carpets & mats, deep seat clean (fabric or leather), complete dash & plastic protector/shine, door panels & door jambs (includes underside of door), windows, choice of air freshener
  • Exterior: Hand wash, clay bar, paste wax, quik wax, wheels clean/polished, wheel buff, tire clean & dress, chrome trim polish & rubber, vinyl protector/shine, windows (add $5 for Rain-X treatment)
  • Engine bay cleaning
Add engine bay cleaning to any package (except the platinum package) for an extra $20

What do you guys think? Are those fair enough prices? Should I go lower? Should I go higher on some? Should I add any "services" to any of the packages? Also I need new, more cool names so to say, for the names of the packages. That's why they are in (). I kind of wanted a racing theme name thing going on but idk how I'll do that :confused: Okay so I realized that I'm asking a lot out of you guys here so I'll stop for now lol. Any help would be awesome! Thanks guys <3 :)

jimbo7 05-10-2010 11:17 PM

how about:
power wheels package
go cart package
nascar package
formula 1 package

i've become somewhat of a expert at polishing headlights lately :D

seriously, i think that's a pretty good start. but what if customers want you to use their own products? i can be your guinea pig.

SpinEm_90 05-10-2010 11:21 PM

ooo i like those title names! thanks! u guys are a lot more creative then me lol or maybe i'm just lazy.

ha yeahh i saw that thread on your headlights & all, i meant to comment on it but my net has been all jacked up tonight from the storms hitting us.

own products? sure that's cool, i could most def do that. i use all meguiars stuff besides the mother's ball & other things like windex & rain-x but the majority is meguiars

MAMONTE 05-11-2010 08:15 AM

Hey Brittany,

There is one problem I see here. If I was looking at your price list/ packages, I would say "can I get a solo interior, a solo exterior, add wheel buff, and add paste wax!?!? That would be $35+$30+$10+$10= $85 total.

Now I think (unless I missed an important detail) all of the above purchased on a seperate basis would be the same as getting the Gold Package, which cost $100. So essentially, buying everything all at once, cost more than buying stuff solo.

I think it should be the other way around. It should cost more if you added all of the solo's together, and less if you purchased them as a package.

I think your package prices seem very reasonable, but I think you will find that your prices for the solo packages are pretty low. I mean steam cleaning the interior is a pain in the ass, and you are doing that, along with the rest of the interior for $35? I think you should leave the package prices alone, and raise the solo prices so that if you were to bundle all the solos together, it would cost more than if you purchased the WHOLE package. This encourages people to buy everything when they think they can get a discount by purchasing more.

My suggestion:

Solo Interior- $50 (i think that is still really fair for a package that includes steam cleaning interior)

Solo Exterior- $40, add $10 for paste wax, and add $10 for wheel buff.

Therefore, if you were to purchase all of those together, you ended up spending $110 total. But if you just buy the Gold package, it saves you $10.00 and you still get everything.

Oh, and one more thing. DO NOT USE WINDEX on your customers windows. People like myself with tinted windows would literaly not go to you for a detail job because of that. Windex (most windex anyway) has ammonia in it, and anyone with tinted windows wants to stay far away from glass cleaner with ammonia in it. Ammonia glass cleaners is what makes tint turn purple. You need to use a glass clean specifically ment for automobile windows, or a Windex that is ammonia FREE. :)

SpinEm_90 05-11-2010 10:12 AM

hmm okay i see what you are saying on those solo prices now. thanks for pointing that out mike =)
well i got tinted windows in my car so i only use ammonia free windex anyway lol & eventually i'm prob look around for a window cleaner that is specifically for car windows.
ohh & one more thing, do you guys think that i should throw in convertible top conditioning & cleaning to any of the packages? or just have it as an add on like the engine bay cleaning?

Budsjlm 05-11-2010 12:34 PM

he he looks alot like my packeges n prices it's cool i used/ modified someones too!, u'll get some odd request i just had a guy request decal removal and detail on a 30 ft motor home and don't be afraid to barter it's how u get some of your best customers and will make more money in the end! don't forget word of mouth is an awsome marketing tool also

Blazed SS 05-11-2010 12:50 PM

hit up the used car lots if you get in to the rock chip repair for the paint touch up.. I have a friend that does it and he makes a killing he does a car for 75$ take care of 3 towns close by and was able to quit his day job

gothkid 05-11-2010 01:02 PM

The average detail can last 3-5 hours and range from 100 - 500 dollars depending on the work envolved.

I would also call other detail/ body shops and see what they charge, and ask a few auto dealer shops and ask what products they use. Then get the number for there supplyer, Meguries is a good product but the shine doest last very long.

Here is a websites that gives some good advice

http://thedetailinghandbook.com/default.aspx
http://www.detailingtricks.com/

captaindamnit 05-11-2010 06:05 PM

For my windows I use the product Invisble Glass... It works WONDERS! Im not 100% sure but I don't think it has any bad stuff in it!

AwesomeSS 05-11-2010 06:14 PM

My fiance charges about $75 per hour. You almost need to assess every vehicle and decide what it needs.

Jomao_o 05-11-2010 06:20 PM

I wanna be one of your customers, you DO have a mobile detail van don't cha?
Cuz i live near by, Maryland. :D

mak330 05-11-2010 08:03 PM

wow 30 bucks for my whole interior
thats amazing.



how do you make money off that when you have to buy the product. plus hours involved.

to answer your ?, yes i think those are amazing prices, but i also think that you wont make any profit. maybe for a company thats established and buys product at cost, and by the 55 gallon drum. plus you have to pay rent/morgage.

there are a lot of ppl that want a clean car but hate to do the work. you would get great business uf your albe to keep those prices.

SpinEm_90 05-11-2010 08:12 PM

lol well jose come over to missouri sometime =p
& yeah i've had people ask me bout the whole profit thing so i'm still toying with the prices but i think i'm on the right track so far. I gotta week or so still to mess with everything & all

04MonteLS 05-11-2010 08:55 PM

I have my own detailing business and noticed one service missing from your roster, polishing! I don't know how skilled you are and if you're planning on using a machine doing all this by hand but I would highly suggest you add polishing to your services. Especially on those packages where you clay the car. However, doing so has it's pros/cons. Some of the pros are:

Better results
More of a money maker
Easier to upsale a package

Cons

More time consuming
Another product to carry
Can unreasonably raise expectations (depending on how you explain expected results)

I think anybody can wash/wax a car, but how many can make paint that seemingly has no hope look brand new again? That's what will set you apart from the pack. This is what I specialize in.

If you're going to add polishing to your menu, you will definitely need to inspect the car to determine what you will need to do to get the results the client wants. But if polishing is going to be left off, you're good as is.

Good luck, hope this venture works out for you and let me know if you have any questions.

AwesomeSS 05-11-2010 09:05 PM

Ya if the customer doesn't expect to get deep scratches out then you have everything covered. Wet sanding and buffing with a machine (not an orbital) buffer is the only way to get deep scratches and really bad swirl marks out of the paint.

SpinEm_90 05-11-2010 09:07 PM

kk thanks! yeah when i said buffing & all I also meant polishing, idk why i left it off lol. i have my eyes on a polisher that my buddy on the GM Forum is selling so I'll prob get that once I get the money & my dad already has a buffer that works wonders on both the paint & headlights

AwesomeSS 05-11-2010 09:07 PM

So you will be offering your client a very clean car but not a show room new car - you need to make sure the client understands that.

SpinEm_90 05-11-2010 09:08 PM

yeah dont worry i will bcuz i dont want any problems to rise up & all ya know

Enzo354 05-11-2010 10:36 PM

I say add an option to every package where for an extra $75 you do all of that, but in a bikini. :D !!!!! You would just rake in the dough haha.

SpinEm_90 05-11-2010 10:55 PM

lol ohh yeah i'm sure i would but that would be soooo awkward to do that around the employees & most of all my dad

Enzo354 05-11-2010 11:22 PM

Hey whatever it takes XD , your dad could wear one too LOL!!

SpinEm_90 05-11-2010 11:33 PM

lol ohh man thanks for the mental pic brock

jimbo7 05-12-2010 10:59 AM

hey brit, there's a car show/cruise this sat. just past mid rivers mall next to all the dealerships. it's at 4750 North Service Road St. Peters, MO 63376 in the St. Charles Assembly of God parking lot. times are 6-10pm. after i get off work i might head over there. i gotta clean my ghetto cruiser first though :D

http://lothangout.com/Wordpress/

lucian*91 05-12-2010 11:21 AM

can u add a "build your own package" like build your own bear workshop..:D
i think one of those would be pretty cool,

and what if i have a small mazda mx-5 with only two person seating?
will there be discounts compaired the the person behind me with the pontiac montana seating up to 8?
dont wanna talk prices because i dont want to make you lowball or charge
too much

SpinEm_90 05-12-2010 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by jimbo7 (Post 225497)
hey brit, there's a car show/cruise this sat. just past mid rivers mall next to all the dealerships. it's at 4750 North Service Road St. Peters, MO 63376 in the St. Charles Assembly of God parking lot. times are 6-10pm. after i get off work i might head over there. i gotta clean my ghetto cruiser first though :D

http://lothangout.com/Wordpress/

ohh cool! thanks! my bestie went to it last year while i was in florida & we've been trying to figure out when it starts again. i gotta another cruise in troy that starts at 4 so i'll prob go to that first & then head over to saint peters at like 6ish so i'll prob be over there at round 6:30 - 6:45 but that would be totally cool if we met up there =)


Originally Posted by lucian*91 (Post 225512)
can u add a "build your own package" like build your own bear workshop..:D
i think one of those would be pretty cool,

and what if i have a small mazda mx-5 with only two person seating?
will there be discounts compaired the the person behind me with the pontiac montana seating up to 8?
dont wanna talk prices because i dont want to make you lowball or charge
too much

yeah i actually thought about that whole building your own package ordeal. i think i'll leave that option open & then i'll just make custom pricing depending on what all materials i need & what not

yeah i see what you are saying. well dan off of the GM forum pointed out that maybe i should just use those prices at an average price or something & that i should look at the cars first & do a price quote for the customer & all.

johns85mcss 05-12-2010 04:47 PM

what brand wax and stuff u getting. i detal and i get from 100+ for anything i do.

SpinEm_90 05-12-2010 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by johns85mcss (Post 225608)
what brand wax and stuff u getting. i detal and i get from 100+ for anything i do.

the majority of the stuff is meguiars except the mothers powercone & sometimes i use armorall for the interior when i run out of the meguiars stuff


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