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drivernumber3 Aug 21, 2024 11:30 AM

A few Carshow photo's from 2024 I have a concern too?!
 
Okay been to a few Carshows this summer and for some reason the Awards have been a little less than I thought they should be. So I think I have narrowed the problem down. I have competitors that will be in my class but they really don't belong there. But they have figured that they can compete better.
Let me explain. 1 guy has a special edition Firebird some some decals on it and a fancy painted engine cover. doesn't have the normal 3 mods that should be in a Modified class.
Another guy has a Corvette and should be in the Corvette class and will be in my class.
The last one had a Camaro with no mods except some stickers under the hood.
None of these have more than 1 mod maybe 2.
So I need to find a different class to be in or quit Carshows all together.




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my display
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I brought a few trophies along so the judges would see that I had won some shows.
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bumpin96monte Aug 31, 2024 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by drivernumber3 (Post 734480)
ldoesn't have the normal 3 mods that should be in a Modified class.

Being a bit car show class ignorant - what are the normal 3 mods for a modified class?



Another guy has a Corvette and should be in the Corvette class and will be in my class.
The last one had a Camaro with no mods except some stickers under the hood.
None of these have more than 1 mod maybe 2.
So I need to find a different class to be in or quit Carshows all together.
TBH I'm surprised you're able to win trophies at all. Nothing against your car, it's beautiful, I just always ran into a lot of hate at these old school style shows for anything FWD much less a historical name plate like a monte carlo being FWD.

We of course also had the tuner style shows with a far larger FWD representation, but then they seemed to have a general hate for anything American. So I never found any actual trophy award style shows around me where I fit in enough to win anything.

At the few shows I did attend before I gave it up, I saw a lot of the stuff you mentioned- people class hopping because their target class was too full. Also saw a lot of judge favoritism (judges hanging around a lot with the owner of a specific car before / during / after judging and magically they win 1st place in their class).

Frankly the subjectivity really turned me off to the whole thing. I think thats why I leaned a lot more into sound competitions back when I was into shows - at least that had an objective way to win without bias.

drivernumber3 Sep 1, 2024 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by bumpin96monte (Post 734522)
Being a bit car show class ignorant - what are the normal 3 mods for a modified class?

A Modification on a vehicle would be different Wheels, Custom Paint, Body kit/ ground effects. There is no typical or standard for a Modification.
I have seen some with fully custom Upholstered Trunks and sound systems, Custom Painted, Custom Interiors, The wheels, Bagged suspension, Chromed out engine bays.




TBH I'm surprised you're able to win trophies at all. Nothing against your car, it's beautiful, I just always ran into a lot of hate at these old school style shows for anything FWD much less a historical name plate like a monte carlo being FWD.
I am not sure that they look at the RWD or FWD . I don't think the MC should be in with Pony Cars like Stangs, Birds and Camaros. or Vettes, they always seem to have a better paint condition than I do. But the judging sheet never asks about the Mods, and they should. The judges for these things I bet they know very little about the Cars at all. I remember one time I was in Iowa at a Carshow and I was doing my Dale E. show. They asked me if I would Judge a couple of the classes.
I was talking with the car owners and one had an Old Studebaker. I made a couple of comments and he said to me you really know your Cars! One of my favorite subjects. I think I was able to give a very unbiased evaluation.


We of course also had the tuner style shows with a far larger FWD representation, but then they seemed to have a general hate for anything American. So I never found any actual trophy award style shows around me where I fit in enough to win anything.

At the few shows I did attend before I gave it up, I saw a lot of the stuff you mentioned- people class hopping because their target class was too full. Also saw a lot of judge favoritism (judges hanging around a lot with the owner of a specific car before / during / after judging and magically they win 1st place in their class).

Frankly the subjectivity really turned me off to the whole thing. I think thats why I leaned a lot more into sound competitions back when I was into shows - at least that had an objective way to win without bias.

Hopefully this works


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