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Video Aug 2, 2013 07:17 AM

Wrong firing order
 
So i feel like an idiot. I guess I wasnt paying attention and somehow had cylinder 5 on the cylinder 2 tower on the coil, and vice versa...its been like that for afew days.

How badly did i fudge up the motor?

ChibiBlackSheep Aug 2, 2013 07:48 AM

So is your P0300 code gone now? haha

idk how much damage you could have done, put everything back correctly and see if you are throwing codes and such.

Video Aug 2, 2013 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by ChibiBlackSheep (Post 562489)
So is your P0300 code gone now? haha

idk how much damage you could have done, put everything back correctly and see if you are throwing codes and such.

No more codes related to the motor haha.

Yesterday i hooked it up to a scanner with real time data and it was strangley only misfiing on 3...not sure how the computer works when its firing on wrong cylinders.

Right now no more misfires, but the idle jumps between 680 and 740. For all i know i fried something. The MAF sensor is working correctly though. Scanner can read the Hz and the Hz goes up when i give it throttle and always goes back to the same starting Hz value and I tested it for voltage and its fine.

ChibiBlackSheep Aug 2, 2013 08:14 AM

Unplug the battery for an hour, let the computer forget fuel trims that it learned while you had the firing order wrong.

That alone might fix your idle problem.

Now you just need to fix that Cat :)

Video Aug 2, 2013 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by ChibiBlackSheep (Post 562497)
Unplug the battery for an hour, let the computer forget fuel trims that it learned while you had the firing order wrong.

That alone might fix your idle problem.

Now you just need to fix that Cat :)

Exactly. Im not even sure the cat has an issue other than the rattle.

Does it really take an hour?

JC Colon Aug 2, 2013 09:06 AM

Correct me if I am wrong, But doesn't each coil fire both outputs twice, meaning, each coil has one input, when it fires, both outputs fire. Meaning that ifyou cross wires from any 2cylinders that are on the same coil pack, there is No difference in your firing order. It's best to have your cylinders wired to the right position on a coil bit it is not harmful if the 2 cylinders are crossed?

Video Aug 2, 2013 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by JC Colon` (Post 562508)
Correct me if I am wrong, But doesn't each coil fire both outputs twice, meaning, each coil has one input, when it fires, both outputs fire. Meaning that ifyou cross wires from any 2cylinders that are on the same coil pack, there is No difference in your firing order. It's best to have your cylinders wired to the right position on a coil bit it is not harmful if the 2 cylinders are crossed?

Thats very interesting...honestly my car ran and revved fine while it was like that. I mean the idle was meh but it wasnt loping.

JC Colon Aug 2, 2013 08:58 PM

I remember reading once, and please don't quote me cause my momma says I been Old since I was 3, so my memory could be failing, :confused: , that the plugs fire on the exhaust stroke, to burn any gas that did not do so on the combustion stroke, for better emissions. That is why today's fuel injected engines are better than those I worked on A Billion Years ago.
Therefore, if your plug wires are on the wrong post But the right coil, you firing order should be OK. If you have bogging, shuttering, poor power, the cause could be, bad plugs, bad wires, or if you are miss firing on 2 cylinders that are on the same coil, then the coil itself may be bad. At least, That's how the math works in my Geek of a Brain!


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