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cornerview 01-30-2011 05:49 PM

overheating , but should i put coolant in radiator or reserve tank
 
GUYS, just last night my car's temp swung way to the right and into the redzone and i got the dreadful HOT COOLANT TEMP light flash. so i am in a similar position as most with OH problems. let me lay down the facts first.

-2003 ss
-130k miles
-3800 v6
-im not getting any warm / hot air with heat engaged
-i havent got any steam or smoke from it overheating .
i may have driven the car no more than 10 miles from when the first hot coolant temp warning flashed (not to mention the light was intermittent and the temp guage would slam way to the right then slowly cool off a little, then go back to blazing hot )
- about an hour ago the thermostat was replaced

i went ahead and cranked it up to see if it would start overheating again but i got too nervous and turned it off after the temp guage went past the middle. i seriously believe it will start up overheating again but heres my question . . . . . . .

when i pop my radiator cap off should i immediately see coolant (meaning right under where the cap is) ? because right now all im seein is that brown gunk i guess since i use death-cool . . . sorry. . .. . . . i mean dex -cool.

or


...... is it ok if it appears empty ?, i mean that coolant drains down somewhere in the radiator where we cant see right? i know the gunk is another issue but i can only take it one step at a time on a sunday. thanks in advance guys

zjerry 01-30-2011 06:26 PM

Pop radiator cap off should see coolant.maybe when thermostat was replaced radiator was not filled all the way up ?

monte07 01-30-2011 06:55 PM

ok this is what i would do is do a flush to get all the gunk out of the radiator and the engine. then fill it back up with prestone or some brand you like that is what you want to put back into it. before putting coolent back in i would replace the t-stat while every thing is out of the engine when you are doing every thing. if it is doing it again i would go after one of two things next water pump. before going further do you have the 3800???

monte07 01-30-2011 06:57 PM

sorry some of the 3800 have uper and lower lim gasket leak that causes the coolent to leak and disapear. it can cause it as well. i was sugesting the cheaper of the average things that will cause the problems before cracking in to the uper and lower lim gaskets.

jimbo7 01-30-2011 09:02 PM

you said you replaced the t-stat. did you put it in upside down? did you purge the air in the system?

05MonteLS 01-30-2011 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by monte07 (Post 291751)
sorry some of the 3800 have uper and lower lim gasket leak that causes the coolent to leak and disapear. it can cause it as well. i was sugesting the cheaper of the average things that will cause the problems before cracking in to the uper and lower lim gaskets.

Also,
Check the oil to make sure it's not a milkshake. If it is, then the upper and/or lower intake manifold gaskets need to be changed out. I'm fortunate to not have this happen to me yet, as the 3.4 engine is just as prone to having that happen as the 3.8 is, from what I've heard..

cornerview 01-30-2011 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by zjerry (Post 291747)
Pop radiator cap off should see coolant.maybe when thermostat was replaced radiator was not filled all the way up ?

thats very possible . . . . should it have been? will i need to put a new t-stat in ?

cornerview 01-30-2011 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by monte07 (Post 291750)
ok this is what i would do is do a flush to get all the gunk out of the radiator and the engine. then fill it back up with prestone or some brand you like that is what you want to put back into it. before putting coolent back in i would replace the t-stat while every thing is out of the engine when you are doing every thing. if it is doing it again i would go after one of two things next water pump. before going further do you have the 3800???

thanks 07, ill read up on flushing and c if its something i can do in my garage, if not then ....sigh... hello meineke. so wait r u suggesting putting the t-stat first and then adding coolant? yes its a 3800. ill start pricing water pumps just to know what to expect.

cornerview 01-30-2011 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by jimbo7 (Post 291791)
you said you replaced the t-stat. did you put it in upside down? did you purge the air in the system?

thanks jimbo, i havent purged the air yet but ill actually give that a shot now. does the car need to be running? and thats the tiny screw on top of the housing right? and i did put the stat in correctly with a new gasket

jimbo7 01-31-2011 12:44 PM

if you have air in your system it can overheat like that. you should hear a gurgling noise sitting in the car when you turn your heat on too. that tells you you have air pockets.

top it off with some 50/50
run the engine
loosen or remove the brass bleeders
when only coolant is coming out, close them back up
repeat when it warms up and turn the heat on to purge the air trapped in there

it may take a few tries to get it all out

ChibiBlackSheep 01-31-2011 12:54 PM

Fill the radiator up, make sure the overflow is where it should be.

Bleed your system completely.

If you drove the car with it overheating, you could have warped something bad, so let's hope that didn't happen.

cornerview 01-31-2011 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by ChibiBlackSheep (Post 291914)
Fill the radiator up, make sure the overflow is where it should be.

Bleed your system completely.

If you drove the car with it overheating, you could have warped something bad, so let's hope that didn't happen.

ARG, CHIBI! u forgot to knock on wood! lol, . . . . just got a call from the shop. my radiator is leaking and he also "believes" some of that gunky crap got in my intake manifold. so they want to swap both parts out. along with a thorough power chain flush. boy this is gonna be a long week. thanks for all you guys help with this matter. i seriously cant put in words how much its appreciated! wish me luck as i plan on visitin my backyard mechanic who will do the work. ill give u an update on his opinion and a second update on his post work.

rgant_19 02-20-2011 01:08 AM

I am having an overheating issue with my MC as well. But, the thing is, I smell something burning by the serpentine belt (like burning oil) which I even tried to see if the coolant will flow inside the radiator with the cap off. Well, that was a bust!!! So imma just let the mechanic hit my pockets because I can't keep going through this.

Im going to buy a new radiator cap tomorrow to see if that is the issue!!!

ChibiBlackSheep 02-21-2011 08:37 AM

Could be the water pump, belt driven.

rgant_19 02-21-2011 11:15 AM

@ ChibiBlackSheep: I sure hope its something simple. I just dropped it off at the shop and the guy will let me know what was wrong with it. Check this out, he wil even throw in a scan code search to see what's faulty in my car. You can't beat that one....which is free

Lorraine Jacklin Allen 08-18-2013 11:50 AM

okay I have a question. I do body work and a little bit of engine work. but I replaced my t-stat already and the recovery tank also. I believe there are to hose on the recovery tank one in the front and one in the back. but I cant find the other hose. the system has to be pressurize for to work right. I cant find the hose in the back or were it might be located on the engine. it is a 01 monte carlo 3.4 block. I looked on the net but I seem to come up empty handed for the recovery tank. please help

The_Maniac 08-18-2013 03:30 PM

The recover/overflow tank has 1 thin hose that connects to the radiator. There is an outlet on the tank to exhaust excessive pressure or in a worst case, release coolant if the system is that over filled or pressurized.


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