10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all right of inheritance. (estate tax)
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturingindustries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.
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Karl Marx wrote that the children are the future of the socialism.

If we can't do it on the battle ground, we'll beat them in the classroom.

That is why are universities are so screwed up.

 

First of all, number 10 is not fulfilled. You're using the north american definition of public schools. In communism there are only public schools, no private schools.Thus making only one government funded, government approved curriculum that is free to the people. As any parent or student can tell you, there is no shortage of parents and students paying tuition fees for private schools.

In communism, importing products made in another country is forbidden. A trip to Wal-mart will tell you how well that's going over. Last time I checked, this wasn't China.

In capitalism, the big wigs in charge of all the private businesses and corporations make ungodly amounts of money. In communism, there are no private businesses. And with our politicians being major players in some of those companies, I don't see that changing any time soon.

 

As for publicly funded health care. I don't think it would ever work in the US. We have public health care here in Canada. Our population is somewhere around 35 million or so. With the average canadian living longer than in previous generations, our health system is failing. The government no longer has a large enough budget to fully fund every single health problem in every person in the country. We now have a shortage of doctors, nurses, hospitals. Wait times are unbelievable. Private health care facilies have started opening up all over Canada to take up the slack.

With the US population being so much higher than Canada, there's no way a publicly funded health care system would work in the US. Besides, HMO's would never let that happen anyway. Lobbyists can be very influential.

 

[ol][*][align=center]Abolition of private property and the application of all rent to public purpose
The Kelo vs. New London decision gives the government to take private property away and keep it for itself or give it to another private entity. [/align][*][align=center]A heavy progressive or graduated income tax
Yep. The more you make, the higher tax percentage you pay, and the effect is not at all subtle. [/align][*][align=center]Abolition of all rights of inheritance
We’re maybe halfway there. The death tax can take more than 50%… sometimes 100%. [/align][*][align=center]Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels
The IRS can take property without due process, and is often used by politicians to target enemies. [/align][*][align=center]Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly
The Federal Reserve. [/align][*][align=center]Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the State
FCC, DOT, FAA… acronyms are fun. [/align][*][align=center]Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan
Department of Agriculture, the Environmental Protection Agency. [/align][*][align=center]Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture
No. [/align][*][align=center]Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country
Absolutely. [/align][*][align=center]Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
Yeah, we have government education, but it’s not yet combined with industrial production. [/align][/ol]

 

Way, WAY back in the 1980s there were a lot of movies and music vidoes that depicted a post-apocalytic world torn apart by thuings like war, and/or government sticking it's head into people's everyday lives.(ie. Mad Max- Beyond Thunderdome, Duran Duran - Wild Boys as a couple examples)

There was a lot of talk about the book 1984 by George Orwell and how close was soctiety to how this book depicted it.

When I was in high school my History teacher told us the only direction a capitalist society can move is to socializm and vise versa. He was more right then wrong about this.

I know GPD can probably back me up on this cause our government has their hands in our lives alot more then they did say 25 years ago.

But the generation before ours as well as ours did alot to get this going by the "Free" love movement and drink till you drop then drive home actions.

 

If Hillary gets in, we are in deep ****e. No we can never become totally socialistic, but this country can break aprart in 2 factions that will grow further and further apart.

Civil war? possibly, but not in our lifetime. A federation is an idealistic solution. Let the libs lefties have their existance and give them all East Costbeachesfrom Maine to Florida. How about if we just shove all them into Vermont and Oregon.

They can give the rest of the country to the us Republitarians, (Republicans & Democratswith Libertarian views.)

Welfare should be for widows and orphans, unemployment should be for 6 weeks, and for crying out loud, put prayer back in schools.

Since prayer was banned, we have gone from No.1 in the world to No. 36 in world. No coincidence since the "fear of God is the beginning of knowdge." No God no knowledge.

I would hate to be an atheist because if I am wrong I am going to hell. As a believer, If I am wrong, I am just dead.

Damn those hippies, how could we let them take over Capitol Hill!

 

Well taz, i see your point, but this was written in a time when children were practically required to work. i think a modern "communist manifesto" would probably just say government education for all children. and space, yes we got government organizations for the enviornment and transportation, and i forgot to mention them.. nice to get another persons view. i think all of hte organizations you mentioned were intended ot keep the monopolys in check and prevent fraud, but i think the EPA has expanded a bit too much. they wouldn't let people in california burn a "fire wall" to protect fomr those fires a year or so ago (when was it california guys?) because some kind of groundhog lived there? The EPA (or maybe PETA?) said you couldn't destroy that animals natural habitat, fire coming or not. os instead of some poor animal that tears up the ground that is so endangered having to move somewhere else, all the land around him got burned beyond recognition. some guy built a fire wall around his home, and went to jail for it... his house is the only one in that neighborhood standing now.

Space, as for your grade, you get a 100

i'm surprised at how conservative this forum is, between this and the 9/11 thing i thought there would be a large liberal outcry to ban me from the monte carlo forum hehe, no commie-liberals here i see (or is this thing only being up about 18 hours at the time of the post have anything to do with no large liberal outcry yet?). but dave, i'm a Christian myself, and plan to become a minister. however, i am also a libertarian who strongly believes in a seperation from church & state. i'm not so sure prayer should be in schools, although i think the moment of silence was a good idea. oh, and this includes Muslim prayers, if Christians can't pray, neither can the Islamics. thats fair, right?

 

Or liberal members are just being polite by staying quiet.

 

I used to think seperation of Church and state was the way to go. But not anymore.

State has proven it can't handle the job without GOD!!!

And that's what This country was founded on. The right to believe in God how we choose to do so. Not Mohammed or Budda. If you want to worship them move to the middle east.

When I was in grade school we had prayer in school. And I seemed to have turned out okay? (no comments)

We need to get all the special interest groups out of our government and concentrate on making this nation great again.