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Old 11-25-2016, 12:39 AM
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Hey guys! question: my '03 monte 3.8 is losing water, I have replaced the water pump (year and 1/2), had radiator fixed, 1 year, replaced elbows but not with the aluminum ones, new hoses etc., I am losing a lot of water from radiator without obvious leak? now just this past week I am hearing gurgling noises when I first crank up the car? yes I have not blead the system everytime I added water to rad so I get that but that does not explain the loss of water?? Is this upper/lower manifold leak and how do I know for sure?? thanks as always people!!... Claydoh
 
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Running straight water can allow a slight leak to go undetected.
Trace water can be simply drawn through the EVAP System as a vapor if it gets converted to steam and gets vented along with Crankcase fumes.

Pull the PCV Valve and look for anything slime-related.

Not sure, ... but I think AutoZone has a Cooling System Pressure Tester you can borrow for free.
 
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I checked O'Reilly and it looks like they have the tool; I'd imagine autozone has it tool.

Yeah that gurgling is air in the system and you hear the coolant/water in the heatercore. A lot of placed for a leak, but you can put some dye in and pressure the system as Rick is indicating. The only way to be sure is to start testing.
 
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Old 11-25-2016, 01:12 PM
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Make sure to check your oil to see if it's mixing in there, which would be bad news.
 
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If "a good deal" of coolant is leaking internally, ... you will find evidence:

1) Checking your Oil for obvious contamination.
The Oil will become discolored and take-on a milky-looking appearance.
There will be a slime-like coating the Dip Stick and Tube.

2) You will likely find some gunky-slime buildup on the Oil Fill Cap and immediate area surrounding the Oil Filler Cap's inlet on the Valve Cover.

3) Similar evidence on the PCV Valve.
 
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Heating core. Check the passenger side floor-mat for dampness.
 
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Old 11-30-2016, 12:20 AM
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Thanks for the replies guys! I appreciate it!! after much further investigation, I have determined that the culprit of me losing water is again those pesky plastic cooling elbows which I replaced maybe two years ago!! once engine is hot I can see it seeoing out of the one that is visible. I checked the oil and rad for slime/milkyness etc that was suggested and found none? whew!! I am replacing with the aluminum elbows this weekend and hopefully that will fix her up!! again thank you for the help, Claydoh
 
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Old 12-05-2016, 11:36 PM
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Well replaced elbows Saturday with the new aluminum ones and so far so good!! thanks again for all the input! love this site for help and info!!
 
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I know I'm a little late, but I had the same issue, I was losing a lot of coolant from the plastic elbow. I just replaced them on my 2001 SS with the aluminum ones and solved the problem.
 
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Good to hear everyone got them solved with a relatively simple fix. I remember reading a while back that doorman had some issues with those o-rings on the aluminum elbows. Seems like they are back to good again.
 




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